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Dylan
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(04-15-2017, 04:02 AM)
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The "Direct Download" link from the main site for Episode 94 doesn't work, btw. I get directed to a blank 'downloadsecurity' file page


Also, I gotta reiterate my sentiment that it's really strange that there's no button on the website that displays a list of only blog posts associated with episodes. For a website dedicated to a podcast, the actual links to the audio can be crazily hard to find and requires an inconvenient amount of scrolling. A newcomer to the site might even miss the crucial fact that Retronauts is primarily a podcast as opposed to a news blog.

http://www.glixel.com/ Glixel has a nice button right at the top banner that makes it really easy to find the podcasts! Wink wink nudge nudge. Keep 'em coming!
LiveFromKyoto
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(04-15-2017, 04:14 AM)
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Originally Posted by Cyan

Yes.

Weirdly I did not quite gel with Symphony in its time. It felt too easy for a Castlevania (though I do love Super IV, which isn't terribly hard since the multi-directional whip kind of breaks the design) & the non-whip weapons in SotN didn't quite feel right to me. It wasn't until much later that I clicked with the Metroidvanias. Aria is probably my current favourite among them, though I didn't play the last couple on DS. I can now appreciate how much care was put into Symphony and what a well-designed game it is though.

But Rondo is such a perfectly crafted game, every element feels so well placed and deliberate, like each new obstacle is a puzzle. And the remake's animation is so cool, just walking around feels amazing. The cinemas are less corny too. I really, really like it. (It also includes the original game + Symphony for whatever reason).

Originally Posted by Dylan

Also, I gotta reiterate my sentiment that it's really strange that there's no button on the website that displays a list of only blog posts associated with episodes. For a website dedicated to a podcast, the actual links to the audio can be crazily hard to find and requires an inconvenient amount of scrolling. A newcomer to the site might even miss the crucial fact that Retronauts is primarily a podcast as opposed to a news blog.

Co-signed. There are so many times I've visited the website and spent a bunch of time hunting for the podcast tab only to realize after a while that there isn't one.
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ToastyFrog
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(04-15-2017, 04:23 AM)
We have a massively improved website in the works. Only so much you can do with a WP blog.
Dylan
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(04-15-2017, 04:56 AM)
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Originally Posted by ToastyFrog

We have a massively improved website in the works. Only so much you can do with a WP blog.

Awesome! Happy to hear.

You should do a Worldwide Retronauts launch party. Retronauts Day, where everyone around the world plays a classic game and tweets/snaps/hashtags™ their nostalgia. #RetronautsDay, (or something snappier?). We could probably get it mentioned on Good Morning America or at the very least, Good Afternoon, Canada.
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(04-15-2017, 04:58 AM)
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Originally Posted by LiveFromKyoto

If I think Rondo of Blood - and the PSP remake in particular - is better than Symphony of the Night, is that wrong?



For the longest time I just assumed it was him, lol.

pretty sure he is/was liquid swords on gaf
Suzzopher
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(04-17-2017, 11:19 AM)
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So weird I started playing Sword Quest two weeks ago on the Atari Flashback Collection. Luckily the manual and comics are on there.
krae_man
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(04-17-2017, 06:11 PM)
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I wonder what the ratio of people who have played the 8 bit Ghostbusters games vs have just seen the AVGN videos.

I'm guessing more people have just seen the AVGN videos.
Imbarkus
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(04-17-2017, 06:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by krae_man

I wonder what the ratio of people who have played the 8 bit Ghostbusters games vs have just seen the AVGN videos.

I'm guessing more people have just seen the AVGN videos.

C-64 version here. Hit spacebar to "GHOSTBUSTERS!!"
Suzzopher
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(04-17-2017, 08:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by krae_man

I wonder what the ratio of people who have played the 8 bit Ghostbusters games vs have just seen the AVGN videos.

I'm guessing more people have just seen the AVGN videos.

ZX Spectrum here.
Sapiens
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(04-19-2017, 12:58 PM)
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Ugh, any mention of the Genesis and it's, "mmmmeggg, nghhh, robot farts"

Jeremey, you need to get people who have played more than SNES/NES games on your East podcast.

No time to listen to a retro podcast where some people have only played Sega games on a 10 year old version of a shitty emulator.

I'll avoid any east podcasts, because they're just not as good as west. Not even close.
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ToastyFrog
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(04-19-2017, 02:45 PM)
OK. Sorry for wasting your time.
mattp
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(04-19-2017, 02:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sapiens

Ugh, any mention of the Genesis and it's, "mmmmeggg, nghhh, robot farts"

Jeremey, you need to get people who have played more than SNES/NES games on your East podcast.

No time to listen to a retro podcast where some people have only played Sega games on a 10 year old version of a shitty emulator.

I'll avoid any east podcasts, because they're just not as good as west. Not even close.

lol jeremy had visions of your stupid post the second benj made the genesis joke


..relax

the retronauts east stuff is great.
Sapiens
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(04-19-2017, 03:34 PM)
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I appreciate your efforts, Jeremy, and I heard what you said in the podcast, but it still needs to be said. What good is a retro podcast if we still have to deal with console-warrior stuff instead of appreciating the splendour of all the classics, regardless of the system?
mattp
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(04-19-2017, 04:03 PM)
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but its like 10 seconds out of the entire podcast. its not like they spend any actual time talking about it. benj made a one off comment/joke(i didnt even think it was funny, but who cares?), jeremy scoffed at him, and they moved on

its not a big deal
Fenster Mayhew
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(04-19-2017, 06:29 PM)
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Someone also got mad that I made an ALF joke during our Master System panel so I'm now banning all jokes from Retronauts.
krae_man
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(04-19-2017, 06:35 PM)
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Originally Posted by Fenster Mayhew

Someone also got mad that I made an ALF joke during our Master System panel so I'm now banning all jokes from Retronauts.

Wouldn't that make Retronauts 90 minutes of dead air?
El Pescado
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(04-19-2017, 06:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sapiens

Ugh, any mention of the Genesis and it's, "mmmmeggg, nghhh, robot farts"

Jeremey, you need to get people who have played more than SNES/NES games on your East podcast.

No time to listen to a retro podcast where some people have only played Sega games on a 10 year old version of a shitty emulator.

I'll avoid any east podcasts, because they're just not as good as west. Not even close.

See, I liked that. It's funny because it's true. It really didn't take anything away from the episode.

Shane was insufferable on the Castlevania episode though.

Now I wish the SwordQuest episode was closer to the comic's release because I'm dying to read it.
RoryDropkick
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(04-19-2017, 06:43 PM)
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I was more surprised at the weird dig towards Frank Cifaldi, but glad to see that was immediately squashed.
Sapiens
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(04-19-2017, 06:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by mattp

but its like 10 seconds out of the entire podcast. its not like they spend any actual time talking about it. benj made a one off comment/joke(i didnt even think it was funny, but who cares?), jeremy scoffed at him, and they moved on

its not a big deal

Enough snark to make me turn it off. Got other podcasts in my queue.

Originally Posted by El Pescado

See, I liked that. It's funny because it's true. It really didn't take anything away from the episode.

Shane was insufferable on the Castlevania episode though.

Now I wish the SwordQuest episode was closer to the comic's release because I'm dying to read it.

I admire Shane's knowledge and passion. He just loves games in spite of the system. Admittedly, his problem is that he has a very "cred"-centric point of view. On one hand, I think he sees some game fans as poseurs if they came late to a party (which is very wrong), but on the other, he is possibly trying to maintain a contextual discussion about the game at the time of it's release. I totally get your complaint though.
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ToastyFrog
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(04-19-2017, 06:59 PM)

Originally Posted by RoryDropkick

I was more surprised at the weird dig towards Frank Cifaldi, but glad to see that was immediately squashed.

I think it was more an innocent attempt at name-dropping without really thinking through the negative implications, but yeah, I'd hate for anyone to get the impression Frank is some sort of secretive ROM-hoarder when his entire purpose now is 100% the opposite of that.

Originally Posted by mattp

lol jeremy had visions of your stupid post the second benj made the genesis joke

If you listen carefully after Benj's joke, you can hear the exact moment my soul leaves my body.
brianmcdoogle
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(04-19-2017, 07:04 PM)
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Originally Posted by Fenster Mayhew

Someone also got mad that I made an ALF joke during our Master System panel so I'm now banning all jokes from Retronauts.

I hope you told that person to go choke on a cat.

Anyway, some people are still upset at Dyack jokes made almost a decade ago. Sometimes jokes hit the nerves of people in strange ways.
Dylan
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(04-19-2017, 07:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sapiens


I admire Shane's knowledge and passion. He just loves games in spite of the system. Admittedly, his problem is that he has a very "cred"-centric point of view. On one hand, I think he sees some game fans as poseurs if they came late to a party (which is very wrong), but on the other, he is possibly trying to maintain a contextual discussion about the game at the time of it's release. I totally get your complaint though.

My take on Shane is that he correctly understands that video games are not politics or cancer research, and that being a bit boisterous in your passion for something can be fun and entertaining, and jokingly throwing shade at others for their own opinions is no more wrong than someone who claims their hockey team is the best and someone elses' is the worst. It goes without saying that these reactions are all in good fun, and I think the only people in the wrong in these cases are people who attempt to inject some weird version of political correctness into discussions video game nostalgia. It's just games, so let people celebrate their illogical biases and artificial fan hierarchies. Ultimately that's part of the fun of video games and should remind us not to take them too seriously.
Sapiens
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(04-19-2017, 07:12 PM)
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Jeremy, I'll say it again, you're doing great work. Your knowledge, dedication and professionalism are appreciated. Deeply. I love your youtube channel. I don't skip your ads, ever, out of respect.

I heard what you said immediately afterward and I still could not resist posting in spite of people calling me stupid for saying it. I just felt I had to say it - if I'm going to listen to a podcast about stuff I love, I don't want to listen to people who are blatantly misinformed in a discussion where they should have the same level of professionalism and passion you do.

I'm obviously being dismissed, but that's fine. I'm glad you at least read what I had to say. Thank you again for the dedication you put into what you do. I never want you to feel as if I'm putting you or your work down. I just want to provide what I feel is valid criticism.

I will go back to my corner and continue my butthurt now. I take back the shit I said earlier. I'll keep listening and deal.
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RoninChaos
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(04-19-2017, 07:14 PM)
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Anyone here a patron that knows how to get the early shows through a podcast app or is that not possible?
Suzzopher
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(04-19-2017, 07:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by RoninChaos

Anyone here a patron that knows how to get the early shows through a podcast app or is that not possible?

You just copy the RSS feed link and place it into your feeds.

I use Beyond Pod.
RoninChaos
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(04-19-2017, 07:21 PM)
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Originally Posted by Suzzopher

You just copy the RSS feed link and place it into your feeds.

I use Beyond Pod.

Thanks for the reply. Is it possible to do it through itunes as well or do I need to manually load it?
El Pescado
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(04-19-2017, 07:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by RoninChaos

Thanks for the reply. Is it possible to do it through itunes as well or do I need to manually load it?

I'm listening to the Patreon Advance Feed through the Apple Podcast App. The link is somewhere on the Patreon Page. You just copy and paste it into the App.
Fenster Mayhew
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(04-24-2017, 06:06 PM)
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Our Ghostbusters episode is now live for all to enjoy: http://www.retronauts.com/?p=2279
Imbarkus
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(04-24-2017, 07:31 PM)
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Just finished the Batman episode. Good stuff overall.

There was a C-64 game I played, non-isometric, but before the Ocean movie Batman game, known as Batman: The Caped Crusader. It had a weird way of overlapping new hallway screens on top of the visible underlying borders of the screens you had come through before. I wonder if this is what you were referring to?



I have copy of a bootloader for it. The game was next to impossible so it was nice to run it and get arund a bit more, being immune to al the various deadly things constantly hitting you on every screen.

I don't know why Batman games, as you mentioned, were so brutally difficult, so many times. I know Benj had some good things to say about Batman Returns for Lynx--and the game did have big sprites and good music and graphics--but I returned it, as I never could progress past the first level. This was pre-internet, but I honestly think many overly-hard Lynx games don't even have cheat codes to make them winnable. I'd be curious if Benj ever saw level 2 of Batman Returns.



It was a shame the episode ended when it did. I mean, I didn't expect a lot of Arkham game coverage in Retronauts, but there's still a bunch of interesting stuff to cover. You left off right at the SNES and Genesis Batman & Robin, but right before mentioning the Sega CD game. Unlike Spiderman Vs Kingpin, this was a totally different game, a racing game using the Sega CD's sprite scaling.



It wasn't very good but it did feature whole unique animated clips done by Bruce Timm and co just for the game. You can find these around the webs as "

And then, finally, I know there were lots of juicy inside baseball stories about the disaster that was Batman: Dark Tomorrow, based on the classic blue-and-grey Batman, which ended up as Koei/Tecmo's swan song as a publisher, IIRC. Stories of lvish PR and parties tied to this shit game hold hold some interest.



I hope you do come back to the topic. I'm glad we got some info on the cancelled The Dark Knigh adaptation game last year.
mattp
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(04-24-2017, 09:19 PM)
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did i just zone out or did they not bring up the genesis version of adventures of batman & robin?
because that game is fucking GREAT (and i think jeremy would like it a lot, if he hasn't played it)
ToastyFrog
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(04-24-2017, 11:54 PM)
We missed a bunch of Batman games. Guess we have no choice but to revisit the topic, someday...
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(04-25-2017, 12:37 AM)
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Originally Posted by ToastyFrog

We missed a bunch of Batman games. Guess we have no choice but to revisit the topic, someday...

Well if the music sucks on the Genesis version you had better keep your nasty NES-biased comments to yourself. Maybe you should think about people's feelings before you go around implying that Genesis games don't sound the same as NES games.
Heroman
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(04-25-2017, 12:41 AM)
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Tried to listen to the Batman episode but there was to much filler and things that were about Batman.
Ultima_5
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(04-25-2017, 12:42 AM)
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Originally Posted by El Pescado

I'm listening to the Patreon Advance Feed through the Apple Podcast App. The link is somewhere on the Patreon Page. You just copy and paste it into the App.

someone needs to let the lasertime folks know how to do this for bonus time. the patreon app is hell
Man God
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(04-25-2017, 12:48 AM)
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Originally Posted by ToastyFrog

We missed a bunch of Batman games. Guess we have no choice but to revisit the topic, someday...

There are so many bad 16 and 32 bit batman games. Then there's actually some real decent ones in the GCN/PS2/XBOX days.
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(04-25-2017, 01:44 AM)
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Originally Posted by Man God

There are so many bad 16 and 32 bit batman games. Then there's actually some real decent ones in the GCN/PS2/XBOX days.

I really enjoyed Vengeance on Gamecube. One of the first four games I bought for the system, and so we played the crap out of it. It was a damn sight better than Universal Theme Park game, that's for sure!

Rise of Sin Tzu was alright. Horrible invisible walls in that game, with a timer running so you had to jog back and find the one bad guy you didn't kill to proceed. Still, had a better Clayface boss battle than the one in Arkham City.
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(04-25-2017, 01:57 AM)
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Originally Posted by Ultima_5

someone needs to let the lasertime folks know how to do this for bonus time. the patreon app is hell

1 Go to laser time patreon
2 copy patreon RSS link
3 go to itunes
4 File->subscribe to podcast
5 paste

Worked fine for me.
Dylan
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(04-25-2017, 05:36 AM)
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Originally Posted by ToastyFrog

We missed a bunch of Batman games. Guess we have no choice but to revisit the topic, someday...

Worthintendo
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(04-25-2017, 02:19 PM)
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Listening to the Batman episode last week, I feel bad for liking Arkham Blackgate on the 3DS, I thought it was a fun little Metroidvania on the 3DS :(
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The archive mentioned in this episode: https://archive.org/details/Retronauts1-100
ToastyFrog
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(04-25-2017, 02:28 PM)

Originally Posted by Worthintendo

Listening to the Batman episode last week, I feel bad for liking Arkham Blackgate on the 3DS, I thought it was a fun little Metroidvania on the 3DS :(

Never feel bad for liking a crummy game. Cherish your ability to see a coprolite as a precious jewel.
Imbarkus
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(04-25-2017, 02:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by Worthintendo

Listening to the Batman episode last week, I feel bad for liking Arkham Blackgate on the 3DS, I thought it was a fun little Metroidvania on the 3DS :(

PS3 version spruced up the map a bit, which was a problem on 3DS/Vita.

Originally Posted by ToastyFrog

Never feel bad for liking a crummy game. Cherish your ability to see a coprolite as a precious jewel.

It's important in the Age of Arkham to have some throwbacks to the kinds of Batman games we played as kids: mean, hard, and bad. Blackgate doesn't fully qualify, it wasn't mean or hard.

I just noticed that micro-episode 46 covered Superman games? Missed it. Less material!
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(04-25-2017, 03:50 PM)
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Originally Posted by Imbarkus

PS3 version spruced up the map a bit, which was a problem on 3DS/Vita.

I liked what they tried to do with the map, but it was hard knowing where you were sometimes. Feels like a huge oversight from the guys who worked on Metroid Prime
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(04-25-2017, 03:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by Worthintendo

I liked what they tried to do with the map, but it was hard knowing where you were sometimes. Feels like a huge oversight from the guys who worked on Metroid Prime

True, but I don't remember Prime having a lot of verticality. I think it turns out if you want to do a sidescrolling Metroidvania, you are beholden to lay everything out of one big 2D map for it to make sense.

For me, Blackgate turned out to be a game you could put down for a while, come back to... and have no idea where you were, where to go, or what to do. I should give it another go from the top some time.
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(04-26-2017, 01:41 AM)
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So Jeremy Parish has never played Ghostbusters on the Genesis? He didn't even play it to prep for the episode?

Time to cut him loose -- no coming back from that one. Arguably the best Ghostbusters game ever, and a milestone for (pre-Sonic) Genesis platformers. It was an early example of the Genesis setting itself apart from the competition.
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krae_man
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Loving the Bart's Nightmare episode. Whoo Wrestlenauts shoutout!

Oh man I loved Barts Nightmare as a kid and rented it all the time. I was able to beat it as a kid. Took hundreds of hours and dozens of rentals.

The key to survivin the overworld is getting a massive Z bar. What you do is get yourself one hit before death and you get in that "I'm about to wake up" state. Blow a bubble and touch a Z with the bubble on the far left of the screen. Then do the same for the right. Your bar will now stretch all the way across the screen.

The next thing you want to do is blow a bubble right before Skinner pops on screen. You can't blow bubbles while wearing the suit, but you can still control bubbles you've already blown. And since you are invincible while the suit is on, you can completed ignore everything going on and focus exclusively on collecting Z's

With Bartzilla, as long as you figure out what of your 8 attacks will kill the jet fighters, you're set. As long as you kill every one of the jets before they fire their missile at you you only need to kill a fraction of everything else to survive.

The bloodstreem level can get frustrating since the grenade throwers are instant death.

The Indiana Bart level is just straight trial and error memorization. I went to the book store with a pen and paper and wrote down the solution from one of the cheat code magazines that existed back then. It's just straight memorization.

On the first Itchy and Scratchy page, there's an exploit to beat them in the kitchen. There's a spot you can stand and kill them the second they appear on screen and the knife they throw always goes over your head and doesn't kill you.

Also the developer who made this game, the one who quit video games because making it was his own personal nightmare made my favorite pre owning my first console(SNES) game: Alley Cat.


It was originally made for Atari 8 bit computers, but was ported to IBM PC's a year later and that's where I played it, on my grandpa's 286.
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Dylan
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Originally Posted by GuyKazama

So Jeremy Parish has never played Ghostbusters on the Genesis? He didn't even play it to prep for the episode?

Time to cut him loose -- no coming back from that one. Arguably the best Ghostbusters game ever, and a milestone for (pre-Sonic) Genesis platformers. It was an early example of the Genesis setting itself apart from the competition.

Haha, someone should keep a running list of all the arbitrary lines Retronauts has crossed to make listeners give up.

(Even if they are clearly joking, of course : )

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