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Lucifon
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(03-20-2017, 10:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by Button



dat wine

If we're nitpicking water pouring animations we could be here all day with videogames.
Parahan
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(03-20-2017, 10:15 PM)
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Originally Posted by Officer.Sanchez

I just finished a comparison between the (alpha?) footage from april 2016 and this one. I couldn't find a good video so I used the glitched footage.

https://my.mixtape.moe/yugchn.mp4


Okay this is insane. They had textures and animations down pat in 2016 and a year later they release a game that looks like the 2015 version before it got polished??

I have zero knowledge on how game development works but does this mean there is a possibility they can patch the game to "revert" back to these visuals?
dc89
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(03-20-2017, 10:17 PM)
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Originally Posted by D4Danger

Lmao
CassidyIzABeast
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(03-20-2017, 10:17 PM)
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I'm gonna chalk most of that comparison up to textures not loading due to it being a glitched cutscene. No way that's the intended level of detail.

The plume was probably super taxing on hardware so it getting chopped makes sense but man, the dip in facial animation is a real bummer.
Metroidvania
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(03-20-2017, 10:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by Officer.Sanchez

I just finished a comparison between the (alpha?) footage from april 2016 and this one. I couldn't find a good video so I used the glitched footage.

https://my.mixtape.moe/yugchn.mp4

The lighting difference is just....geez. Probably causing some framerate issues, but just look at the guy's skin on the final release.

The Krogan armor is also much more pronounced in the early footage.
rhandino
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(03-20-2017, 10:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by Parahan

I have zero knowledge on how game development works but does this mean there is a possibility they can patch the game to "revert" back to these visuals?

Of course! Just like Ubisoft patched the old lightning into Watch Dogs after everyone complained at the downgrade.

... More seriously tho, it's likely that the visuals in that leaked footage had to be downgraded for performance reasons just like it happened to games like XenobladeX or how Syndicate is not as good looking as Unity.
Last edited by rhandino; 03-20-2017 at 10:21 PM.
Tom Nook
(03-20-2017, 10:19 PM)
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HOLY CRAP! How did I miss this thread?

HAHAHAHAHAHAH


Guess I've been playing Zelda a lot and watching Power Ranger marathon.
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SRTtoZ
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(03-20-2017, 10:23 PM)
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Originally Posted by Officer.Sanchez

I just finished a comparison between the (alpha?) footage from april 2016 and this one. I couldn't find a good video so I used the glitched footage.

https://my.mixtape.moe/yugchn.mp4

The facial animation when he starts to choke is fantastic. What the hell happened to this game??? Unless that leaked portion was just a vertical slice made to look good.
a916
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(03-20-2017, 10:25 PM)
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Originally Posted by SRTtoZ

The facial animation when he starts to choke is fantastic. What the hell happened to this game???

Sounds like they ran into performance (memory?) issues. Everything got turned down. Look at the flatter hair and eye shaders.
Soltype
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(03-20-2017, 10:25 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kapten Stoffe

That looks awful! Had to take a still image to post. May be a bit blurry from being a still, but the lighting, the colors, what happened?!



Looks almost like a different version of the game.
CarbonFire
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(03-20-2017, 10:26 PM)
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Originally Posted by Metroidvania

The lighting difference is just....geez. Probably causing some framerate issues, but just look at the guy's skin on the final release.

The Krogan armor is also much more pronounced in the early footage.

They probably aimed too high for current gen consoles and didn't have the expertise (or time) to optimize Frostbite to make it work. Which is probably why they didn't want to release any footage of this game until late in the project.
SRTtoZ
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(03-20-2017, 10:28 PM)
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https://youtu.be/nPOlAPsazHs?t=36s

Is that Knuckles?
Tenacious-D
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(03-20-2017, 10:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by Officer.Sanchez

I just finished a comparison between the (alpha?) footage from april 2016 and this one. I couldn't find a good video so I used the glitched footage.

https://my.mixtape.moe/yugchn.mp4

Look at this.

Code:

What happened to the faces? Everything in the leaked clip looks fine, even the eyes.

Whut?

Originally Posted by CarbonFire

They probably aimed too high for current gen consoles and didn't have the expertise (or time) to optimize Frostbite to make it work. Which is probably why they didn't want to release any footage of this game until late in the project.

Another theory.
Lanrutcon
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(03-20-2017, 10:34 PM)
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Fuck it, all this ME:A talk has put me in the mood to replay the original.

Installing.
Rubmifer
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(03-20-2017, 10:36 PM)
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Originally Posted by Lanrutcon

Fuck it, all this ME:A talk has put me in the mood to replay the original.

Installing.

Already doing so since yesterday. Having a lot of fun. Gonna do an entire re-run of the original trilogy and pick this game up later when it's cheaper and patched out.
Angelus Errare
this looks like one of those Final Fantasy games lionhead always makes
(03-20-2017, 10:38 PM)
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Originally Posted by GravityInsanity

Bioware really needed way more time with this game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-S56ek5rMI

Jesus, they need to call this game Mass Recall
PeakPointMatrix
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(03-20-2017, 10:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by Tenacious-D

Look at this.

Code:

What happened to the faces? Everything in the leaked clip looks fine, even the eyes.

Whut?



Another theory.

This is seriously Sonic Boom levels of downgrade and jank. Some serious irreparable change must have occurred at some point.
akidnamededdy
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(03-20-2017, 10:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by Lanrutcon

Fuck it, all this ME:A talk has put me in the mood to replay the original.

Installing.

Hey at least someone's gonna be playing a good Mass Effect game this week.
BuckRobotron
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(03-20-2017, 10:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by Lanrutcon

Fuck it, all this ME:A talk has put me in the mood to replay the original.

Installing.

I had paused an extended umpteenth replay of ME2 (PC, whereas games prior on 360) and now ready to pick up where I left off. Right after picking up Tali iirc.
PeakPointMatrix
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(03-20-2017, 10:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by GravityInsanity

Bioware really needed way more time with this game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-S56ek5rMI

Is this a one-off bugged version of the cutscene or the way it plays on every retail copy? Is there a version out there without this crazy glitching?
Spinluck
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(03-20-2017, 10:42 PM)
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I wonder how the animators of this game would feel coming into this thread. Brutal lol.
akidnamededdy
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(03-20-2017, 10:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by Spinluck

I wonder how the animators of this game would feel coming into this thread. Brutal lol.

They know what they did.
Tenacious-D
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(03-20-2017, 10:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by Spinluck

I wonder how the animators of this game would feel coming into this thread. Brutal lol.

But they don't lack talent. The facial animations looked fine in that leaked vid. Even every other BioWare game since ME1 has also had better facial animation than ME;A.

Something went seriously wrong with the project that must have had a domino effect to cause this. I highly doubt that anyone is happy with this.
lastplayed
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(03-20-2017, 10:46 PM)
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Originally Posted by inky

Romulan Ale looks nothing like that...



Actually Romulan Ale looks different depending on the version of Trek we are talking about ;P

Romulan Ale should be illegal.
LordKasual
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(03-20-2017, 10:48 PM)

Originally Posted by Button



dat wine

good jesus
akidnamededdy
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(03-20-2017, 10:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by Button



dat wine

"Shit, sorry - that was my pudding flask."
inky
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(03-20-2017, 11:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by lastplayed

Romulan Ale should be illegal.

It is.

at least in that movie we don't speak about
Osahi
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(03-20-2017, 11:01 PM)
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In one cutscène I had two characters following the exact same path and doing the exact same animations, like the game had only place for one teammember to put there and decided: what the heck, let's just mix up both.

Don't have a movie or a gif as I didn't think of saving it as a movie, but I do have the abomination in screenshot:

a916
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(03-20-2017, 11:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by Spinluck

I wonder how the animators of this game would feel coming into this thread. Brutal lol.

I don't work their... but I would imagine they know the quality of the animation. They would still be hurt reading this. There's also more to the story that they can't talk about. If there was trouble developing or something had to get downgraded because it wasn't running.
Killdozer
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(03-20-2017, 11:03 PM)
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Originally Posted by akidnamededdy

"Shit, sorry - that was my pudding flask."

Hah!
PeakPointMatrix
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(03-20-2017, 11:10 PM)
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Originally Posted by Spinluck

I wonder how the animators of this game would feel coming into this thread. Brutal lol.

I mean from that leaked beta footage, it's clear they know their shit. The expressions and movement seemed on-point. Somewhere along the line, they had to brutally reduce the footprint for optimization or pipeline purposes and their established work took a massive hit as a result. I believe the theory that facial bones were excised from the rig for example; it explains the wooden, incomplete faces in that particular scene.
lastplayed
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(03-20-2017, 11:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by inky

It is.

at least in that movie we don't speak about

Don't know what you're talking about...

Officer.Sanchez
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(03-20-2017, 11:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by Osahi

In one cutscène I had two characters following the exact same path and doing the exact same animations, like the game had only place for one teammember to put there and decided: what the heck, let's just mix up both.

Don't have a movie or a gif as I didn't think of saving it as a movie, but I do have the abomination in screenshot:



From Doctor Strange
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shiba5
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(03-20-2017, 11:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by StriKeVillain

Ok, this cracked me up a bit.

https://twitter.com/Pepipopa/status/...237255/video/1

What
The
Fuck
udivision
(03-20-2017, 11:13 PM)
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Originally Posted by LordKasual

good jesus

That's what happens when those of little faith try to perform miracles.
lastplayed
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(03-20-2017, 11:15 PM)
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Originally Posted by Osahi

In one cutscène I had two characters following the exact same path and doing the exact same animations, like the game had only place for one teammember to put there and decided: what the heck, let's just mix up both.

Don't have a movie or a gif as I didn't think of saving it as a movie, but I do have the abomination in screenshot:

Batgirl Cora?
neoglow
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(03-20-2017, 11:15 PM)
This game is the biggest jank pile I've seen for a while.

With all the resect I can give, it all looks so amateur or like an old 90's game when 3D animation was far more.....basic. That sex scene was mega cringe.

It's a mess.
SRTtoZ
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(03-20-2017, 11:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by Spinluck

I wonder how the animators of this game would feel coming into this thread. Brutal lol.

They probably saw this coming. Something happened in development that made this game go to shit and they probably know the answer to that so I would assume they were prepared for this shitstorm.
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(03-20-2017, 11:24 PM)
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Originally Posted by StriKeVillain

Ok, this cracked me up a bit.

https://twitter.com/Pepipopa/status/...237255/video/1

lol jesus

Every bit I've seen of this game looks awful. How does it have 75 on metacritic?
CassidyIzABeast
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(03-20-2017, 11:28 PM)
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Originally Posted by StriKeVillain

Ok, this cracked me up a bit.

https://twitter.com/Pepipopa/status/...237255/video/1

Dictator93
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(03-20-2017, 11:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by StriKeVillain

Ok, this cracked me up a bit.

https://twitter.com/Pepipopa/status/...237255/video/1

It also meshes with the music

lol
Soul of the Beast
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(03-20-2017, 11:30 PM)

Originally Posted by GravityInsanity

Bioware really needed way more time with this game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-S56ek5rMI

I want to die.
This is is some pre-alpha stuff. It can't be the final game.
Last edited by Soul of the Beast; 03-21-2017 at 12:16 AM.
rashbeep
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(03-20-2017, 11:30 PM)
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Originally Posted by StriKeVillain

Ok, this cracked me up a bit.

https://twitter.com/Pepipopa/status/...237255/video/1

lmao she even hits the same note as the music for a second
MNC
(03-20-2017, 11:33 PM)

Originally Posted by GravityInsanity

Bioware really needed way more time with this game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-S56ek5rMI

So I feel like this is an unfair comparison since this is glitch gameplay where almost the entirety of the footage the facial animations were gone - none of the mouths move while speaking. Is there any real footage?
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(03-20-2017, 11:35 PM)
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lastplayed
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Originally Posted by StriKeVillain

Ok, this cracked me up a bit.

https://twitter.com/Pepipopa/status/...237255/video/1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAiJ1DLU0IU
AlexFlame116
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(03-20-2017, 11:37 PM)
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Originally Posted by StriKeVillain

Ok, this cracked me up a bit.

https://twitter.com/Pepipopa/status/...237255/video/1

Good gracious!
rashbeep
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(03-20-2017, 11:43 PM)
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I am now deceased
Peterc
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(03-20-2017, 11:48 PM)
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Good stuff, wonder what developers would think about neogaf comments. I'm sure soms devs probably thought "we can't do this". But maybe EA said budget is limited. I just can't believe it's that bad, that they even didn't know it by themselves.
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(03-20-2017, 11:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by rashbeep

I am now deceased

how many of us do you intend to take with you?? You madman!

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