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tomtom94
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(03-20-2017, 05:20 PM)
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Originally Posted by Ross61

That is actually my fault. I misread and thought you said that's Bryan Singer was involved.

Eh, it happens. I now know if anyone asks that Zack Shields is co-writing the Godzilla 2 screenplay. :D
3N16MA
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(03-20-2017, 05:25 PM)
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Originally Posted by kswiston

It still bugs me that Spider-man 2 released on a Wednesday. It would have been cool to see all three films break the opening weekend record, like the first three Bat-films did.

Kind of like Transformers opening on Monday or Wednesday. Always wanted to see what Revenge of the Fallen would have done opening on a Friday.
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(03-20-2017, 08:53 PM)
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The weekend actual for Beauty and the Beast was $174.8M
MANUELF
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Originally Posted by kswiston

The weekend actual for Beauty and the Beast was $174.8M

400m+ incoming
GhaleonEB
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Originally Posted by GhaleonEB

Unlike BvS last year, that estimate is probably coming up tomorrow with actuals. 30% Sunday drop feels a bit conservative.

Originally Posted by kswiston

The weekend actual for Beauty and the Beast was $174.8M

That's more like it. Now we begin the legs watch. I'm already rethinking my <3x multiplier prediction based on how it tracked over the weekend.
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Originally Posted by kswiston

The weekend actual for Beauty and the Beast was $174.8M

Nice bump.

Originally Posted by MANUELF

400m+ incoming

It was pretty much guaranteed 400M+ even without the actuals coming in higher.
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(03-20-2017, 08:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by MANUELF

400m+ incoming

400M would be terrible legs.
3N16MA
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(03-20-2017, 08:59 PM)
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Beast does 500M with The same legs as Alice 2.
Son Of D
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(03-20-2017, 09:00 PM)
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Is 600m realistic for BatB?
GhaleonEB
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Originally Posted by Son Of D

Is 600m realistic for BatB?

That's a 3.4 multiplier, which while on the high side of its comparable is not out of the realm of possibility. IIRC the other remakes have been closer to 3x.

$600m is way more likely than $400m, though. It's got a decent shot at getting there depending on how next weekend goes.
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(03-20-2017, 09:04 PM)
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Originally Posted by GhaleonEB

That's a 3.4 multiplier, which while on the high side of its comparable is not out of the realm of possibility. IIRC the other remakes have been closer to 3x.

$600m is way more likely than $400m, though. It's got a decent shot at getting there depending on how next weekend goes.

3.4 would be tough, but honestly, what is slowing this thing down until #F8?
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Originally Posted by kswiston

400M would be terrible legs.

I dont want to be too optimistic, my brother loved the movie and his favorite movie of all time is the original one
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Originally Posted by GhaleonEB

That's a 3.4 multiplier, which while on the high side of its comparable is not out of the realm of possibility. IIRC the other remakes have been closer to 3x.

$600m is way more likely than $400m, though. I'm guessing it lands on the high side of $500m.

Maleficent and Jungle book are around 3.5, Cinderella closer to 3.0, while both Alice films are around 2.9.
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I threw this together from the domestic charts on BOM (sorted by MAJOR studio):

Share | Gross ($M) | # | $M / Film
1 Buena Vista | 26.30% | $3,001 | 16 | $188
2 Warner Bros. | 16.70% | $1,902 | 35 | $54
3 20th Century Fox | 13.30% | $1,520 | 29 | $52
4 Universal | 12.40% | $1,408 | 20 | $70
5 Sony / Columbia | 8.30% | $944 | 48 | $20
6 Paramount | 7.70% | $877 | 18 | $49
7 Lionsgate | 5.80% | $665 | 27 | $25

This is for 2016. I wonder how 2017 ends up...if Disney dominates even more
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Kusagari
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(03-20-2017, 09:12 PM)
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I'd guess Beast ends around 570/580.
Sean C
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(03-20-2017, 09:12 PM)
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I don't get why that site continues to list Buena Vista. Disney hasn't used that name for its distributor in years.
kswiston
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(03-20-2017, 09:22 PM)
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Originally Posted by BumRush

3.4 would be tough, but honestly, what is slowing this thing down until #F8?

The family competition is The Boss Baby and Smurfs.
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(03-20-2017, 09:24 PM)
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Originally Posted by kswiston

The family competition is The Boss Baby and Smurfs.

Do you see either of those having a MAJOR impact on BatB though? Plus, Beast sort of transcends the family genre as there is a lot of nostalgia at play for older crowds that typically wouldn't see a child-friendly movie on a Friday night.
3N16MA
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(03-20-2017, 09:50 PM)
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Originally Posted by kswiston

The family competition is The Boss Baby and Smurfs.

You reminded me that another Smurfs film is on its way. The last film tanked from the first instalment.
Jeff Albertson
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(03-20-2017, 10:11 PM)
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A billion worldwide seems realistic for BatB at this point right? Would love it to get there
El Topo
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(03-20-2017, 10:14 PM)
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Originally Posted by kswiston

The weekend actual for Beauty and the Beast was $174.8M

Nice.

Originally Posted by 3N16MA

You reminded me that another Smurfs film is on its way. The last film tanked from the first instalment.

It's a shame that the movies seem to utterly fail at replicating what made the original cartoon so great (for kids).
Ryuuroden
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Well, both my mom and my sister have been messaging me offering to go with me to see Beauty and the Beast so that they can see it again.....My GF does not want to see it :/ so I may take them up on it. Maybe if I tell my GF my Mom wants to go with my my GF will then decide to go since my Mom and GF do NOT get along.
FTF
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Originally Posted by MANUELF

I dont want to be too optimistic, my brother loved the movie and his favorite movie of all time is the original one

No need to worry, this isn't IM3 (which had the exact same ow but terrible legs to $409m dom). $500m dom is realistic.

Originally Posted by Jeff Albertson

A billion worldwide seems realistic for BatB at this point right? Would love it to get there

$1b is a lock. Prob $1.2b or so finish.
kswiston
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(03-20-2017, 10:33 PM)
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Beauty and the Beast's worldwide opening ended up being $357M.

Kong was over estimated by $1M, and drops to $27.8M


Someone at CBS Films also messed something up with the weekend gross of The Sense of an Ending. The estimate was $475k. The actual was $180k. Off by over 60%!
kswiston
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(03-21-2017, 02:11 AM)
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Presales for Kong in China continue to be strong. It might be able to crack the $100M mark there.
Tricky I Shadow
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(03-21-2017, 03:20 AM)
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Originally Posted by Jeff Albertson

A billion worldwide seems realistic for BatB at this point right? Would love it to get there

Of course.

It's going to cruise past 1 billion. If I had to guess I'd say it'll land at 1.3 billion with the potential to go all the way up to 1.6 billion.
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(03-21-2017, 03:22 AM)
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China Box Office: First Place For ‘Beauty’ Still Less Than Best

While Disney’s Beauty and the Beast waltzed to a commanding first place debut this weekend, its opening gross of RMB 289 million ($41.8 million), exclusive of online ticketing surcharges came in under initial projections (elsewhere you may see ticket-surcharge-inflated totals of RMB 309/$44.7 million, but the studio receives nothing from those extra fees).

This figure also puts it significantly under the recent openings of Hollywood imports like xXx: Return of Xander Cage (RMB 435 million), Resident Evil: The Final Chapter (RMB 656 million), and Logan (RMB 342 million).

Source: http://chinafilminsider.com/first-pl...ess-than-best/
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(03-21-2017, 03:22 AM)
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Tale as old as time...
FTF
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(03-21-2017, 03:24 AM)
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Originally Posted by kswiston

Beauty and the Beast's worldwide opening ended up being $357M.

Kong was over estimated by $1M, and drops to $27.8M


Someone at CBS Films also messed something up with the weekend gross of The Sense of an Ending. The estimate was $475k. The actual was $180k. Off by over 60%!

lol yeah I noticed that too, how does that happen??
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Originally Posted by duckroll

Tale as old as time...

Song as old as rhyme...
X05
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Originally Posted by GhaleonEB

That's a 3.4 multiplier, which while on the high side of its comparable is not out of the realm of possibility. IIRC the other remakes have been closer to 3x.

$600m is way more likely than $400m, though. It's got a decent shot at getting there depending on how next weekend goes.

For the sake of it, how much it'd make using the multipliers of other big openers (the Top 10 OW basically):

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Title				Opening	Total 	Gross		Mult	BatB Total
The Force Awakens		$247,966,675 	$936,662,225 	3.78	$660,097,978 
Jurassic World			$208,806,270 	$652,270,625 	3.12	$545,887,312 
The Avengers			$207,438,708 	$623,357,910 	3.01	$525,129,469 
Avengers: AoU			$191,271,109 	$459,005,868 	2.40	$419,360,553 
Captain America: Civil War	$179,139,142 	$408,084,349 	2.28	$398,087,154 
Beauty and the Beast (2017)	$174,750,616 	$174,750,616 	----	------------ 
Iron Man 3			$174,144,585 	$409,013,994 	2.35	$410,437,381 
Harry Potter DH Part 2		$169,189,427 	$381,011,219 	2.25	$393,534,905 
Batman v Superman		$166,007,347 	$330,360,194 	1.99	$347,759,592
The Dark Knight Rises		$160,887,295 	$448,139,099 	2.79	$486,754,305 
The Dark Knight			$158,411,483 	$533,345,358 	3.37	$588,356,526
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Originally Posted by X05

For the sake of it, how much it'd make using the multipliers of other big openers (the Top 10 OW basically):

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Title				Opening	Total 	Gross		Mult	BatB Total
The Force Awakens		$247,966,675 	$936,662,225 	3.78	$660,097,978 
Jurassic World			$208,806,270 	$652,270,625 	3.12	$545,887,312 
The Avengers			$207,438,708 	$623,357,910 	3.01	$525,129,469 
Avengers: AoU			$191,271,109 	$459,005,868 	2.40	$419,360,553 
Captain America: Civil War	$179,139,142 	$408,084,349 	2.28	$398,087,154 
Beauty and the Beast (2017)	$174,750,616 	$174,750,616 	----	------------ 
Iron Man 3			$174,144,585 	$409,013,994 	2.35	$410,437,381 
Harry Potter DH Part 2		$169,189,427 	$381,011,219 	2.25	$393,534,905 
Batman v Superman		$166,007,347 	$330,360,194 	1.99	$347,759,592
The Dark Knight Rises		$160,887,295 	$448,139,099 	2.79	$486,754,305 
The Dark Knight			$158,411,483 	$533,345,358 	3.37	$588,356,526

For the sake of argument, Force Awakens is the only holiday season release on there, and that time of year is all about legs. The others were either summer or spring releases.
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Originally Posted by Blablurn

China Box Office: First Place For ‘Beauty’ Still Less Than Best

Source: http://chinafilminsider.com/first-pl...ess-than-best/

People in the Chinese box office thread on BOT that actually live in China suggest that musicals aren't super popular as imports.
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Yeah we only like our bad singing to come from Jackie Chan
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Originally Posted by BronsonLee

Yeah we only like our bad singing to come from Jackie Chan

Disney will make all of that lost revenue back once they cast Jackie Chan as the lead in Mulan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SLJJc8siyU
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Originally Posted by OrangeAtlas

Disney will make all of that lost revenue back once they cast Jackie Chan as the lead in Mulan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SLJJc8siyU

They may not want him to sing nowadays though tbh
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Originally Posted by BronsonLee

They may not want him to sing nowadays though tbh

If you're implying what's in that clip is anything less than quality, then you are sorely mistaken.

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Originally Posted by OrangeAtlas

Disney will make all of that lost revenue back once they cast Jackie Chan as the lead in Mulan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SLJJc8siyU

Jackie Chan will be star as a Jedi in Star Wars Episode X. Led by Stephen Chow as director, writer, producer.
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Rentahamster
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Damn, that's a lot of monies.
LordOfLore
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Time for a Life review thread?
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$13.7M for Beauty and the Beast on Monday. Batman v Superman will get to keep the largest Monday in March title (mainly because it was a school holiday in many areas). I'm expecting a huge Tuesday gross.

Boxofficemojo has been down due to server errors for at least 5 hours. I swear that site runs like a fan site despite being owned by Amazon.

Originally Posted by LordOfLore

Time for a Life review thread?

I think we have one
Schlorgan
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(03-21-2017, 06:33 PM)
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Life is at 88% on RT but with only 8 reviews. I'll definitely be keeping an eye on it.
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Originally Posted by kswiston

$13.7M for Beauty and the Beast on Monday. Batman v Superman will get to keep the largest Monday in March title (mainly because it was a school holiday in many areas). I'm expecting a huge Tuesday gross.

Boxofficemojo has been down due to server errors for at least 5 hours. I swear that site runs like a fan site despite being owned by Amazon.



I think we have one

That still seems like a pretty massive number for a March Monday, yes?
AmaterasuOni
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Originally Posted by Schlorgan

Life is at 88% on RT but with only 8 reviews. I'll definitely be keeping an eye on it.

Going to see Life tomorrow. I have high hopes!

I also see CHiPs and Three Generations. Busy press day.
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Originally Posted by BumRush

That still seems like a pretty massive number for a March Monday, yes?

Yes.

The Jungle Book made $7M on its first Monday, after a $30M Sunday. BatB made $48M on Sunday, and almost twice as much on that first Monday.

This misses the top 20 non-holiday Mondays, but almost all of the higher films released when schools were out.

If you screen out late December and mid-June to August, you basically have The Avengers, BvS, Revenge of the Sith, and Furious 7 posting higher first Mondays. BvS and Furious 7 came out Easter Weekend, and a decent portion of students have the Monday off.


Civil War's First Monday was $13.3M. Age of Ultron was $13.2M. Iron Man 3 was $11.3M

Those are the closest comparisons to BatB's opening weekend. I would guess that all of them had less family business to boot. Family films experience bigger weekday drops and bigger weekend bumps.
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Originally Posted by Schlorgan

Life is at 88% on RT but with only 8 reviews. I'll definitely be keeping an eye on it.

I had zero interest in this and still haven't seen GET OUT and LOGAN, but I can't resist the premise and I love horror.
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Originally Posted by kswiston

Yes.

The Jungle Book made $7M on its first Monday, after a $30M Sunday. BatB made $48M on Sunday, and almost twice as much on that first Monday.

This misses the top 20 non-holiday Mondays, but almost all of the higher films released when schools were out.

If you screen out late December and mid-June to August, you basically have The Avengers, BvS, Revenge of the Sith, and Furious 7 posting higher first Mondays. BvS and Furious 7 came out Easter Weekend, and a decent portion of students have the Monday off.


Civil War's First Monday was $13.3M. Age of Ultron was $13.2M. Iron Man 3 was $11.3M

Those are the closest comparisons to BatB's opening weekend. I would guess that all of them had less family business to boot. Family films experience bigger weekday drops and bigger weekend bumps.

Really insightful...thank you. I expected BatB to be huge...not this huge.
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Originally Posted by BumRush

Really insightful...thank you. I expected BatB to be huge...not this huge.

Logan got to be the biggest domestic film of 2017 for 5 days.
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Beauty and the Beast made $21.9M overseas on Monday, bringing the worldwide total to $392M. I'm going to guess at least $460M through Thursday, and around $625M by the end of this coming weekend.

It looks like Power Rangers is simply mediocre rather than being outright trash based on reviews so far. We should get some weekend projections for that tomorrow.

Weying Galaxy Entertainment, a branch of a popular online ticketing service in China, bought a 10% international stake in Ghost in the Shell.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...t-shell-987261

They also handled the Chinese marketing for XxX 3, which recently made $160M in China. Ghost in the Shell opens April 7th in China. It will have to earn its money quickly, because Fate of the Furious drops a week later.
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Triple post, but the Tuesday estimate for Beauty and thr Beast is $18M. 8th biggest non-opening day Tuesday, and biggest not in Late December or Summer.

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