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MrSaturn99
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(05-09-2016, 03:59 AM)
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Wait, that wasn't Jay Ward in Zero?!? Weird.

Originally Posted by Green Mamba

The stage and situation are clearly from Assault, but the characters are all using their 64/Zero voices, and Krystal's nowhere to be seen.

sakurai realized just how garbage she is
Blood Diamonds
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(05-09-2016, 04:02 AM)
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Originally Posted by MrSaturn99

Wait, that wasn't Jay Ward in Zero?!? Weird.



sakurai realized just how garbage she is

I remember when I wanted Krystal in Smash. I'm glad those dark days are behind me now.
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(05-09-2016, 04:02 AM)
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Originally Posted by NinjaCoachZ

This is an email from Jay Ward saying it's not him in Zero. Not sure what more you need...

Who did he voice in Zero?
Menitta
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(05-09-2016, 04:02 AM)
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Originally Posted by MrSaturn99

sakurai realized just how garbage she is

DecoReturns
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(05-09-2016, 04:04 AM)
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I wanted Krystal because of the lack of Female characters, then realized that there are a lot of better options the her.
Triforce141
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(05-09-2016, 04:06 AM)
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Originally Posted by TheDinoman

So I did something pretty neat, I was able to give Mario an additional alt costume without replacing any of his old ones.



It's the red and black attire Mario wears while using a red star in Super Mario Galaxy.

Here's a link to the skin, and here's a tutorial on how to install it without taking up a costume slot.

Is there a tutorial on adding a unique voice pack to a specific alt? I want to make Link have multiple voices like this video.
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(05-09-2016, 04:07 AM)
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My personal wishlist for characters:

Wolf
Ice Climbers
Snake
Inkling
Blastoise
Linkle
Takamaru
Hades
Isabelle
Bomberman
Slime
Slippy (kinda joke character but could have a SF Guard based moveset)
K. Rool
Dixie
Captain Toad
Paper Mario
Ganon
Heihachi
Alph (as his own character)
Excitebiker (retro wtf pick)
NinjaCoachZ
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(05-09-2016, 04:08 AM)
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Originally Posted by Blood Diamonds

I remember when I wanted Krystal in Smash. I'm glad those dark days are behind me now.

Or when people tried to rationalize ROB being in the game from the initial, text-only Japanese infodumps as him being ROB 64. Good times.

Originally Posted by balladofwindfishes

Who did he voice in Zero?

I don't know. Not Wolf though. Possibly some random bosses/NPCs.
TheDinoman
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(05-09-2016, 04:08 AM)
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Originally Posted by DecoReturns

I wanted Krystal because of the lack of Female characters, then realized that there are a lot of better options the her.

I think Smash 4 handled gender diversity pretty well.



At this point I think the only important and popular female characters left are Dixie and I guess Isabelle (her being playable doesn't really suit well with me tbh). There's also the Inklings, which can be female like Robin and Villager. Hell, the girl Inkling design is the most popular and iconic one anyway.

Originally Posted by Triforce141

Is there a tutorial on adding a unique voice pack to a specific alt? I want to make Link have multiple voices like this video.

Haven't seen anything about that yet, unfortunately.
Menitta
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(05-09-2016, 04:08 AM)
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I'll just bring back SBFP's hashtag.

#WonderRed4Smash
MrSaturn99
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(05-09-2016, 04:08 AM)
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Originally Posted by Menitta

Host: I see. But we did get a lot of questions like, “Why wasn’t Krystal a playable character?”

Sakurai: It’s not that I don’t understand how that feels, but if you start saying that, it becomes “Why isn’t Waddle Dee playable?” or Dry Bones, or Baby Peach. There’d be no end to it.

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DecoReturns
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(05-09-2016, 04:11 AM)
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Originally Posted by TheDinoman

I think Smash 4 handled gender diversity pretty well.



At this point I think the only important and popular female characters left are Dixie and I guess Isabelle (her being playable doesn't really suit well with me tbh). There's also the Inklings, which can be female like Robin and Villager. Hell the girl inkling design is the most popular and iconic one anyway.



Haven't seen anything about that yet, unfortunately.

I wouldn't count Robin and Corrin personally, possibly Wendy as well.
TheDinoman
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(05-09-2016, 04:12 AM)
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Originally Posted by DecoReturns

I wouldn't count Robin and Corrin personally, possibly Wendy as well.

I mean, they can be female, which would technically make them female playable characters even if they're alts. Same thing with Wendy, WFT, Villager, yeah.
PK Gaming
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(05-09-2016, 04:23 AM)
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Everyone knows that the default for Corrin is female anyway ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Blood Diamonds
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(05-09-2016, 04:24 AM)
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I'm playing Smash 64 on the Wii VC and fuck this game is good. Captain Falcon was so different lol
Green Mamba
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(05-09-2016, 04:24 AM)
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Female Corrin is boring (which I guess is totally and completely in character to Corrin in general though), male Corrin at least has the benefit of sounding like a dork.
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(05-09-2016, 04:25 AM)
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Originally Posted by Blood Diamonds

I'm playing Smash 64 on the Wii VC and fuck this game is good. Captain Falcon was so different lol

Mushroom Kingdom 64 needs to come back. I've been saying that for the past 10 years. The best stage in the whole series.
PK Gaming
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(05-09-2016, 04:27 AM)
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Originally Posted by Green Mamba

Female Corrin is boring (which I guess is totally and completely in character to Corrin in general though), male Corrin at least has the benefit of sounding like a dork.

Green Mamba
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(05-09-2016, 04:29 AM)
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I just like funny sounding voices, it's a vice of mine.
PK Gaming
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(05-09-2016, 04:31 AM)
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If i'm being honest, I sort of agree

Cam Clarke makes Corrin sound so goddamn funny. Like, one of his death quotes should be "how could this be..." but he makes it sound like "OH MY... GOODNESS"

And then there are his win quotes where one of them is literally "I WIN!"
Captain Rage Quit 69
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(05-09-2016, 04:36 AM)
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Finally people understand why male Corrin is superior
MrSaturn99
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(05-09-2016, 04:37 AM)
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I still can't get over the CD-I Link comparisons for that Corrin victory quote, lol.

Mike West's Fox still reigns king, though. I know the criticism made him feel bad but just...that Star KO cry, man.
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(05-09-2016, 04:41 AM)
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Yeah, Female Corrin design looks and sounds like a generic anime girl.

At least the male version has Cam Clarke going for it and a Linkish design.
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(05-09-2016, 04:41 AM)
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Been having fun using Lucas to pay back all these Rosa mains for the Ness abuse.
PK Gaming
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(05-09-2016, 04:42 AM)
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Fox's voice direction in Smash 4 is just plain awful

Mike West is a good VA, but there's no reason why Fox should sound like he's constantly suffering from extreme constipations

Originally Posted by Captain Rage Quit 69

Finally people understand why male Corrin is superior

Male Corrin is underrated and deserves more love, but Female Corrin is still the QUEEN
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(05-09-2016, 04:42 AM)
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How did this thread even get approved, Intelliheath? Haha.

Also, let's not start with the Krystal support. Ew^10.
Anth0ny
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(05-09-2016, 04:43 AM)
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thanks for the Melee thread plug Heath <3

on topic: bring back japanese smash 64 sfx as smash 4 dlc pls
Blood Diamonds
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(05-09-2016, 04:45 AM)
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Originally Posted by NinjaCoachZ

Mushroom Kingdom 64 needs to come back. I've been saying that for the past 10 years. The best stage in the whole series.

I would agree if Hyrule Castle 64 didn't exist. My favorite Smash stage tbh
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I like Male Corrin more tbh, don't know why.
Kinsei
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(05-09-2016, 04:45 AM)
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Originally Posted by chaosblade

Captain Toad would be even more ground based than Little Mac. Literally cannot jump. No aerials.

They could have two modes of play. You could use their down special to place the backpack on the ground in order to jump, become more mobile, and change their move set. at the loss of power and weight. Their up special when they have the backpack could be a cannon that shoots straight up if used on the ground or horizontally if used in mid-air. Once you go a set height/distance they would plummet as if you had just used Kirby's stone move.

I've loved Toadette ever since I unlocked her in Double Dash back in the day so I would be delighted to play as her in Smash.
Captain Rage Quit 69
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(05-09-2016, 04:48 AM)
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No new characters unless I get Wonderful 101 or Lip

In fact let's throw in Ayumi Tachibana for good measure
Blood Diamonds
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(05-09-2016, 04:49 AM)
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:lol
Griss
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(05-09-2016, 04:50 AM)
What I'm looking forward to is more detailed character models. Since the game already runs at 1080p/60fps, they'll have a ton of overhead.

And since character models are typically done at a high level of detail, and then scaled back to a level where the game runs smoothly, it shouldn't be much work to go back to the originals and create better quality assets from them. I'd be very surprised if we don't see that.

Can't wait for that higher quality Jigglypuff model.
Kinsei
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(05-09-2016, 04:50 AM)
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Originally Posted by Blood Diamonds



:lol

That ending screen is what made me love Falcon.
PK Gaming
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(05-09-2016, 04:50 AM)
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Originally Posted by Blood Diamonds



:lol

I love how nobody noticed as kids because we were all incredibly JAZZED to play as Captain FALCON

"What game is he from?"

"Oh I heard he's from Metroid. He's Samus's rival"

-My cousin
MrSaturn99
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(05-09-2016, 04:52 AM)
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Originally Posted by PK Gaming

Fox's voice direction in Smash 4 is just plain awful

Mike West is a good VA, but there's no reason why Fox should sound like he's constantly suffering from extreme constipations

The English VA direction for Smash has always been a weird balance of "great" (Brawl Luigi, MGS/KI:U Characters, Jigglypuff, Peach, both Robins), "average" (generally everyone else), and "complete fucking dumpster fire" (Melee Peppy/Slippy, Smash 4 Star Fox voices barring Falco, Arceus)
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(05-09-2016, 04:52 AM)
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Originally Posted by PK Gaming

I love how nobody noticed as kids because we were all incredibly JAZZED to play as Captain FALCON

"What game is he from?"

"Oh I heard he's from Metroid. He's Samus's rival"

-My cousin

I thought he was a original character for Smash....along with Ness.

in my defense, I was 6
Menitta
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(05-09-2016, 04:53 AM)
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I still think Captain Falcon should be voiced by the guy who voices Terry Bogard.
Blood Diamonds
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(05-09-2016, 04:55 AM)
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Originally Posted by Kinsei

That ending screen is what made me love Falcon.

lol i had completely forgotten about until now since I just cleared Classic mode with Falcon.

Originally Posted by PK Gaming

I love how nobody noticed as kids because we were all incredibly JAZZED to play as Captain FALCON

"What game is he from?"

"Oh I heard he's from Metroid. He's Samus's rival"

-My cousin

Captain Falcon might as well be a Smash original character tbh
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(05-09-2016, 04:56 AM)
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Originally Posted by MrSaturn99

The English VA direction for Smash has always been a weird balance of "great" (Brawl Luigi, MGS Characters, Jigglypuff, Peach, both Robins), "average" (generally everyone else), and "complete fucking dumpster fire" (Melee Peppy/Slippy, Smash 4 Star Fox voices barring Falco, Arceus)

Don't forget Ike

Literally the best FE lord from a writing perspective reduced to a blubbering idiot thanks to an amateurish VA with poor direction

"I Fight for my friends."

Best part? He doesn't even say that in the Japanese version.

FE character voice direction is generally pretty wonky in Smash. Like, Lucina sounds like an angry soldier from some shoot em up game. Female Corrin is INCREDIBLY cocky and COMPETITIVE despite not being like that at all in her source game (though it's not necessarily a bad thing since her taunts are great). You have female Robin's throwing shade at Lucina for no reason, etc.

It's just plain weird.
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Originally Posted by MrSaturn99

Melee Peppy/Slippy

Fun fact, that's actually Chris Seavor who did their voices (Starfox Adventures was coming out at the time). Funny how the voice of Conker has been immortalized in Smash Bros. even long after Rare left the building lol.
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Originally Posted by DecoReturns

I thought he was a original character for Smash....along with Ness.

in my defense, I was 6

hey at least you didn't think the entire Melee roster (Except Mario and pokemon) were OCs.

Hell when Brawl came out I STILL thought Falcon an the FE charcters were OC


I also thought Sheik was a dude and Samus was a robot. The woes of growing up with the PS1 and PS2
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(05-09-2016, 04:58 AM)
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Originally Posted by PK Gaming

Don't forget Ike

Literally the best FE lord from a writing perspective reduced to a blubbering idiot thanks to an amateurish VA with poor direction

"I fight for my friends"

Best part? He doesn't even say that in the Japanese version.

FE character voice direction is generally pretty wonky in Smash. Like, Lucina sounds like an angry soldier from some shoot em up game. Female Corrin is INCREDIBLY cocky and COMPETITIVE despite not being like that at all in her source game (though it's not necessarily a bad thing since her taunts are great). You have female Robin's throwing shade at Lucina for no reason, etc.

It's just plain weird.

"you'll get no sympathy from me" is the fucking GOAT
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I was one of the few ki that actually knew who Falcon was because my dad owned F-Zero X. I never played as him though, I always chose the raptor.
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Originally Posted by PK Gaming

Don't forget Ike

Literally the best FE lord from a writing perspective reduced to a blubbering idiot thanks to an amateurish VA with poor direction

"I fight for my friends"

Best part? He doesn't even say that in the Japanese version.

FE character voice direction is generally pretty wonky in Smash. Like, Lucina sounds like an angry soldier from some shoot em up game. Female Corrin is INCREDIBLY cocky and COMPETITIVE despite not being like that at all in her source game (though it's not necessarily a bad thing since her taunts are great). You have female Robin's throwing shade at Lucina for no reason, etc.

It's just plain weird.

" I fight for my friends" sounds like something Ike would say, so I can accept that
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I remember thinking Falcon was an original Smash character until Melee came out.

Played him in 64 and Melee, and that led to me getting (and loving) F-Zero GX. Likewise, I mained Marth during my casual Melee years and that was what got me into Fire Emblem.
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On the subject of VA I still think it's a shame Ali Hillis couldn't return to voice Palutena. Brandy Kopp does sound close but she doesn't quite have the same charisma and character of Ali's performance. It's not so noticeable during a round when she's just doing general grunts but it's pretty off-putting when she's speaking full dialogue within the Palutena Guidances.

Also I kinda really dislike Little Mac's voice who's obviously being done by a Japanese guy lol. I know he doesn't speak actual words but he still sounds like an angry samurai rather than a normal dude and it's distracting. It's one of the reasons why I tend to use Mac's wireframe skins when playing as him considering it mutes his voice. At least Doc Louis sounds great.
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Originally Posted by PK Gaming

Don't forget Ike

Literally the best FE lord from a writing perspective reduced to a blubbering idiot thanks to an amateurish VA with poor direction

"I Fight for my friends."

Best part? He doesn't even say that in the Japanese version.

FE character voice direction is generally pretty wonky in Smash. Like, Lucina sounds like an angry soldier from some shoot em up game. Female Corrin is INCREDIBLY cocky and COMPETITIVE despite not being like that at all in her source game (though it's not necessarily a bad thing since her taunts are great). You have female Robin's throwing shade at Lucina for no reason, etc.

It's just plain weird.

What's weird I find him more tolerable now since the voice actually fits his RD body type. "I fight for my friends" is still pretty bad, though.

Lucina I find fine, although her sarcasm against Marth/Ike is weird.

Originally Posted by TheDinoman

Fun fact, that's actually Chris Seavor who did their voices (Starfox Adventures was coming out at the time). Funny how the voice of Conker has been immortalized in Smash Bros. even long after Rare left the building lol.

I knew that, which makes it all the harder to slam considering how amazing the Conker voices are, but just...man. Man. Even back when I was I was 10 I knew those two voices were fucking dire.
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Originally Posted by Blood Diamonds

"you'll get no sympathy from me" is the fucking GOAT

"Don't hold back against me, I'm not gentle" sounds way more badass tbh. Ike is a pretty sympathetic dude so the translation never made sense to me.

Originally Posted by DecoReturns

" I fight for my friends" sounds like something Ike would say, so I can accept that

He sounds like a simple-minded friend loving idiot, when he's anything but that. The quote in the original is something like "I fight for those that need to protected" which extends to people beyond his friends.

Originally Posted by MrSaturn99

What's weird I find him more tolerable now since the voice actually fits his RD body type. "I fight for my friends" is still pretty bad, though.

Lucina I find fine, although her sarcasm against Marth/Ike is weird.

She's super deferential to them in the Japanese version, so it's extra funny to me.
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I didn't realize people care so much for voice acting in Smash.


I'm pretty in different about it. Even if Ike is my favorite FE lord.

I will admit, I thought Melee Falco had the best voice, the rest I never cared for
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Originally Posted by DecoReturns

I didn't realize people care so much for voice acting in Smash.


I'm pretty in different about it. Even if Ike is my favorite FE lord.

I will admit, I thought Melee Falco had the best voice, the rest I never cared for

The best Falco voice is still the 64 one nothing has really come that close since.

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