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Audioboxer
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(05-19-2017, 04:41 PM)
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Theresa May is planning to introduce huge regulations on the way the internet works, allowing the government to decide what is said online.

The plans will allow Britain to become "the global leader in the regulation of the use of personal data and the internet", the manifesto claims.

It comes just soon after the Investigatory Powers Act came into law. That legislation allowed the government to force internet companies to keep records on their customers' browsing histories, as well as giving ministers the power to break apps like WhatsApp so that messages can be read.

Utterly bonkers to allow a government power this overreaching. Look at how it is abused in other countries.

The only thing the government should be involved with is an incitement to commit crime/crimes being committed. Otherwise, it's up to the end user to regulate what they see/hear/do, and private communities/websites/services to uphold their own T&C.

Strong-arming the ISPs too

If internet companies refuse to comply with the rulings – a suggestion that some have already made about the powers in the Investigatory Powers Act – then there will be a strict and strong set of ways to punish them.

It's like the government is taking fake YouTube DMCA takedowns to the next level. Privacy be damned too.

The internet was always going to be the biggest threat to a government. It allows global communication/reach/access and the exploration of all ideas/beliefs and so on. In other words, it's nigh impossible to control unless you go after the ISPs/citizens inside the country.
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BoogieWoogie
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(05-19-2017, 04:42 PM)
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Jesus. At least America has the bright spot that Trump is crashing and burning with the Russia shit, most likely will be impeached or resign.

Britain seems to be in some dire fucking straits.
clockpunk
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(05-19-2017, 04:43 PM)
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May really is the biggest threat to the UK in living memory.


Fuck May.
Last edited by clockpunk; 05-19-2017 at 05:47 PM. Reason: Lest some mod feel my 'assassination' point was active encouragement of such, or some such nonsense
Nokterian
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(05-19-2017, 04:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by LegendofDragoonLives

It already happend with that law passed making mass surveillance a thing in the UK.
Jimnymebob
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(05-19-2017, 04:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by Savitar

Fuck off May.

You forgot the comma.
jelly
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(05-19-2017, 04:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by BoogieWoogie

Jesus. At least America has the bright spot that Trump is crashing and burning with the Russia shit, most likely will be impeached or resign.

Britain seems to be in some dire fucking straits.

Yeah, Trump for a few years. but UK have this for a long time.
Occam
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(05-19-2017, 04:45 PM)
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Originally Posted by UnluckyKate

Britain becoming more and more like V for Vendetta

Except there won't be a man with a Guy Fawkes mask to save Britain from fascism.
SomTervo
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(05-19-2017, 04:47 PM)
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Holy shit

Originally Posted by Nokterian

It already happend with that law passed making mass surveillance a thing in the UK.

Well, the govt can only access your history if they perceive you as a terrorist threat, at which point they go to your ISP.

So not quite, it's still once-removed. And v. easily blocked with a VPN + encryption service.

But that could easily change with a flick of a finger from this administration.
Hollywood Duo
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(05-19-2017, 04:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by tuxfool

Given that staunch supporters are old fucks, I'd say they don't care one way or another.

I get that but I'm saying who is actually in favor of it. Not so much who doesn't care either way.
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(05-19-2017, 04:47 PM)
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This is normally where the EU would step in and tell a politician like this to cut that shit right out, because this is not how civilian rights work... but alas.
Shiggy
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(05-19-2017, 04:48 PM)
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Thank God the EU cannot stop her plans anymore now.
Haunted
(05-19-2017, 04:49 PM)
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One shitty decision after another. It's like having a mini-USA in the EU!

Well, not for long. :lol
Any Questions
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(05-19-2017, 04:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by TestOfTide

Don't get wrong, I think that conservatives like May are the last people I want regulating the internet.


But I do think that the western world needs to have laws to crack down on fake news, trolls, bots, and other aspects of the internet that go unchecked due to a lack of regulations.

Good point. Way way way too much spin out there. However is this a step too far.
HawksWinStanley
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(05-19-2017, 04:51 PM)
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QuicheFontaine
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(05-19-2017, 04:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by clockpunk

Every time I check the news, I have genuinely started to hope to see the headline 'Theresa May assassinated'. She really is the biggest threat to the UK in living memory.

What a horrible thing to say. Pretty dumb too, since it wouldn't actually do anything. Another leader of the conservative party with similar views would be selected. Tories would still win on 8 June.

On topic though - yeesh, what a campaign. I think this is the third time I've said they've almost lost my vote. Genuinely wavering here.
tuxfool
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(05-19-2017, 04:53 PM)

Originally Posted by Hollywood Duo

I get that but I'm saying who is actually in favor of it. Not so much who doesn't care either way.

Teresa May is in favour of it.

I'd say this and widespread espionage are the only things she actually cares about.
dinoroar
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(05-19-2017, 04:53 PM)
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gtfo may.
Nokterian
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(05-19-2017, 04:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by SomTervo

Holy shit



Well, the govt can only access your history if they perceive you as a terrorist threat, at which point they go to your ISP.

So not quite, it's still once-removed. And v. easily blocked with a VPN + encryption service.

But that could easily change with a flick of a finger from this administration.

It is still mass surveillance, you know? Even you can be the terrorist even if you are thinking are innocent.

Because fuck privacy right? I mean who needs privacy? You got nothing to hide, nothing to fear?

It is fucking scary that a government with this power is able to get innocent citizens just by tracking them on everything and hacking everything.
Audioboxer
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(05-19-2017, 04:54 PM)
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Political dissent found on a site called NeoGAF? People calling the Tory party cunts?

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SomTervo
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(05-19-2017, 04:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by TestOfTide

Don't get wrong, I think that conservatives like May are the last people I want regulating the internet.


But I do think that the western world needs to have laws to crack down on fake news, trolls, bots, and other aspects of the internet that go unchecked due to a lack of regulations.

Yes, but this is not the way you do that.

Originally Posted by Nokterian

It is still mass surveillance, you know? Even you can be the terrorist even if you are thinking are innocent.

Because fuck privacy right? I mean who needs privacy? You got nothing to hide, nothing to fear?

It is fucking scary that a government with this power is able to get innocent citizens just by tracking them on everything and hacking everything.

100%

I'm really hoping this helps an election swing away from the Tories. Like surely all the switched on people in urban Tory hubs can't stand for this.
Starwolf_UK
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(05-19-2017, 04:57 PM)
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It is in no-one’s interest for the foundations of strong societies and stable
democracies – the rule of law, privacy and security – to be undermined.

The more I read the manifesto the more I see Theresa May's government as being like the aliens in Mars Attacks saying we come in peace only for their first action to be opening fire then continue to say we come in peace.

Mays Attacks...now there is a parody but it isn't topical like say, the Blah Blah Land movie poster was for Theresa May's speech.
Breakage
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(05-19-2017, 04:58 PM)
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These days it seems like the reasons to leave the UK just keep coming.
clockpunk
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(05-19-2017, 04:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by QuicheFontaine

What a horrible thing to say. Pretty dumb too, since it wouldn't actually do anything. Another leader of the conservative party with similar views would be selected. Tories would still win on 8 June.

On topic though - yeesh, what a campaign. I think this is the third time I've said they've almost lost my vote. Genuinely wavering here.

You're still planning to vote Tory - to my mind that is the horrible thing to say, and pretty dumb too. Cameron was/is an idiot. May is just evil - even compared to most other Tory MPs.
True Savior
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(05-19-2017, 04:59 PM)
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People should have promoted a simple logo:

Brexit= No more Porn.

This mess would have been avoidable.
s_mirage
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(05-19-2017, 05:00 PM)
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Originally Posted by SomTervo

I'm really hoping this helps an election swing away from the Tories. Like surely all the switched on people in urban Tory hubs can't stand for this.

It might if the mainstream press weren't so utterly inept at highlighting this kind of thing.
CTLance
(05-19-2017, 05:00 PM)
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With every fleeting day, I am less sad that the UK will exit EU.

I mean, come on. This is bullshit.
Thriftweed
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(05-19-2017, 05:01 PM)
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Fuck off, May
jelly
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(05-19-2017, 05:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by s_mirage

It might if the mainstream press weren't so utterly inept at highlighting this kind of thing.

Yeah, coverage of Brexit, this referendum, even the EU over the last decade and probably longer is inadequate.
SomTervo
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(05-19-2017, 05:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by s_mirage

It might if the mainstream press weren't so utterly inept at highlighting this kind of thing.

The Murdoch press? Yep.
Morat
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(05-19-2017, 05:03 PM)
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She really is a mad authoritarian.
JonnyDBrit
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(05-19-2017, 05:03 PM)
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Originally Posted by CTLance

With every fleeting day, I am less sad that the UK will exit EU.

I mean, come on. This is bullshit.

On the other hand, it would be really nice if we could go to the EU to overrule this nonsense.

Then again, wonder what the EU's response will be if/when this were to unilaterally affect their citizens...
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(05-19-2017, 05:04 PM)
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Originally Posted by Audioboxer

Political dissent found on a site called NeoGAF? People calling the Tory party cunts?

Coming to a browser near you in 2018

gotta protect british kids from anime-gaf
Theonik
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(05-19-2017, 05:05 PM)
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Originally Posted by s_mirage

It might if the mainstream press weren't so utterly inept at highlighting this kind of thing.

The press is bent to make this election into a Theresa May coronation ceremony.

Originally Posted by hydrophilic attack

gotta protect british kids from anime-gaf

Hey. Don't make me come over here.
shorty_symd
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(05-19-2017, 05:05 PM)
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Unless a real movement and public awareness is fulfilled about this in the UK then the shitty newspapers will bang on about how regulating the internet will "make us safer!" and the fucking tories will completely fuck it up. But let's be frank, people give more shits about Toblerones, "job stealin'" immigrants bullshit fallacies and the high cost of plastic bags so yeah...UK doomed.
hydrophilic attack
(05-19-2017, 05:06 PM)
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Originally Posted by Haunted

One shitty decision after another. It's like having a mini-USA in the EU!

Well, not for long. :lol

the one upside in all of this for the rest of us
Kart94
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(05-19-2017, 05:07 PM)
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fuck off may.

We already got enough problems with Pai's ugly mug. Don't need any more news of some old or middle-aged fuck wanting to harm the internet.
Pandy
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(05-19-2017, 05:08 PM)
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It sounds bloody awful.
UpDownLeftRight
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(05-19-2017, 05:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by clockpunk

Every time I check the news, I have genuinely started to hope to see the headline 'Theresa May assassinated'. She really is the biggest threat to the UK in living memory.

Well you aren't wrong. But you watch the public vote Tory anyway, despite losing their privacy and financial support for the poor. Despite killing the NHS. Cause apparently Corbyn is just so... well I don't actually know since I don't touch the daily mail. A little dumb perhaps? I'd love to know what the public have been convinced of that makes him the worse choice in their heads.
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(05-19-2017, 05:08 PM)
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Regulate my shit you fucking Tory cunt.
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(05-19-2017, 05:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by Altazor

Strength Through Unity
Unity Through Faith

Looks that way
Doctor_Thomas
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(05-19-2017, 05:09 PM)
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I've reached the point where I truly believe the Tories are trying to lose the election so they aren't held accountable for Brexit.
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(05-19-2017, 05:09 PM)
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Originally Posted by UpDownLeftRight

Well you aren't wrong. But you watch the public vote Tory anyway, despite losing their privacy and financial support for the poor. Despite killing the NHS. Cause apparently Corbyn is just so... well I don't actually know since I don't touch the daily mail. A little dumb perhaps? I'd love to know what the public have been convinced of that makes him the worse choice in their heads.

Isn't he a socialist or something? Are the British as afraid of that word as Americans are?
QuicheFontaine
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(05-19-2017, 05:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by Doctor_Thomas

I've reached the point where I truly believe the Tories are trying to lose the election so they aren't held accountable for Brexit.

Honestly starting to get this feeling too...
Martinski43
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(05-19-2017, 05:11 PM)
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This is what a guy from the UK i chatted with about this said.

SymbiantXenos
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(05-19-2017, 05:11 PM)
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You wat May
Doctor_Thomas
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(05-19-2017, 05:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by Martinski43

This is what a guy from the UK i chatted with about this said.

Tell him yes.

UKIP is a wasted vote and takes a vote off the Tories.
s_mirage
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(05-19-2017, 05:13 PM)
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Originally Posted by SomTervo

The Murdoch press? Yep.

Not just the Murdoch press, the BBC have been almost equally useless. It's almost as if being beholden to the government for funding has a chilling effect on their reporting.
jelly
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(05-19-2017, 05:13 PM)
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Originally Posted by Doctor_Thomas

I've reached the point where I truly believe the Tories are trying to lose the election so they aren't held accountable for Brexit.

They need to try a lot harder for that to be true.

It's still a winner for their old voting base like their other polices. The Mail etc. will do the work for them.
Air Zombie Meat
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(05-19-2017, 05:14 PM)
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Originally Posted by Doctor_Thomas

I've reached the point where I truly believe the Tories are trying to lose the election so they aren't held accountable for Brexit.

No, they're just so sure they'll win that they can put unpopular things in their manifesto. Long term it helps them get things passed. It's a gamble.
Hannor Mir
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(05-19-2017, 05:14 PM)
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Fuck off, May

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