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quesalupa
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(05-19-2017, 07:42 PM)
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Where the fuck is my Aunt May movie.
Unspeakable Evil
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Won't ruin my enjoyment of Homecoming of Spider-Man movies. Let them do what they want.

Originally Posted by Bobby Roberts

Seriously tho that's real? Tony's playing Flash Thompson?

That's fucking great.

*Lana Kane voice:YUP*
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Originally Posted by AAK

I don't get it, doesn't Venom kind of depend on Spiderman for a narrative? Isn't there gonna have to be another Spiderman separate from the Homecoming version present in this film?

The spider men ruined Eddie Brock's life. They're among us and they're going to pay.
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Originally Posted by Fallout-with-swords

Pretty sure there is no reason why Tom Holland's Spider-Man couldn't be in this or have this version of Venom be in the sequal to Homecoming.

The deal basically broke down to Marvel can have spidey in Cap 3 and Avengers movies and Sony would get no cut of the revenue but Sony still gets to make Spider-Man movies and they also don't have to pay Disney anything either. Spider-Man Homecoming is a Sony movie so I assume it's part of the "Sony Marvel Universe" while also being in the Marvel universe.


They could cast a full CGI Spider Man you know right? Totally different costume from MCU one , older etc.
They dont need to explain one bit either since it wont be spidey movie
Master Thespian
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How is he gonna be my recast Wolverine now?
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Slay, don't make people give you a tongue LASHing.

Hero Prinny
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Originally Posted by quesalupa

Where the fuck is my Aunt May movie.

still amazed they thought of doing that
Indrid Cold1
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Holy hell this is great.
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Originally Posted by quesalupa

Where the fuck is my Aunt May movie.

We need the Venom movie to establish where she gets the symbiote, so...
Deepwater
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I think it'll work, Homecoming is pretty unique I think in their deal as it's set in the MCU, however they'll probably phase that out as movies go on (as in Spidey will make guest appearances but not be an integral part). Cause RDJ is in Homecoming, I would think, as a part of the branding deal. IronMan in the movie means people will think it's in the MCU (thus driving up ticket sales for both HC and Infinity War) . This helps Sony reboot it yet again (because a stand alone universe for the 3rd time in 15 years is too much).

I believe the Spidey movies after HC (and Infinity War) will most likely be self contained (much like the Netflix series, although probably even more disconnected) which is why they're proceeding with Sinister Six and Venom. Marvel is willing to do a lot of hoops and tricks to get certain properties into their MCU but I'm sure down the road the connection between Spidey and the MCU will get blurrier and blurrier as Sony makes more movies.

But who knows, maybe we'll get a Spider-Island movie with Sony-verse and the MCU in ten years lmao.
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Originally Posted by BoogieWoogie

Slay, don't make people give you a tongue LASHing.

I could have went all day, that is so funny and so sad.....
DeathoftheEndless
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My guess is that Carnage is going to be the villain they'll change him to be either Brock's friend who can't control the symbiote or the guy who killed Brock's family.
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Originally Posted by MHWilliams

Sony has confirmed that Hardy is Brock.

https://twitter.com/SonyPictures/sta...29713225572352

Shame. Would've loved Thompson Venom.

WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Now I'm even more excited ^^
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Originally Posted by Pai Pai Master

Sure Sony, go ahead and ruin the only good thing you've got going right now.

You shouldn't even be posting if you think Venom is the only franchise Sony has with potential to be great....
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(05-19-2017, 07:44 PM)
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Yeah, I can see him being a good Venom... but I don't know about this standalone movie business.
SillyNonsense
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Well, since this is Brock, I imagine Sony is going to totally skip over Spidey's black suit phase now. At best it will touch his finger Prometheus style.

Probably going to use an earth-based origin like Ultimate, but with Peter's role in this reduced to a couple lines. Like, an experiment meant to replicate Spidey's powers creates the symbiote, or something like that which doesn't require a lot (or any) of Tom Holland.

I'll grumble up a storm if he has no spider symbol, though. At the very least, play up the jealousy angle so that Brock tries to copy Spidey's threads.

Originally Posted by quesalupa

Where the fuck is my Aunt May movie.

Aunt Carnage.
Last edited by SillyNonsense; 05-19-2017 at 07:48 PM.
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So Sony really wants to go ahead and use the MCU as as stepping stone for their own movies and try to cut Disney/Marvel as much as possible? I wonder if Marvel is holding a nuclear option (i.e. cutting off merchandising/comic related products if they can).

Makes me wonder what the stipulations are for Spider-Man's participation in Infinity Wars. It'd be funny if Marvel killed off the character and gives Sony the middle finger on how they're going to write themselves out of that one if Tom Holland really is on a 3 Marvel film/3 Sony film contract.
firelogic
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Originally Posted by kevin1025

This could be real cool.

He pulled out of Suicide Squad, though, so who knows if he stays in.

He had to leave SS because of reshoots for The Revenant.

Why are people speculating that Venom will never be in a movie with Spider-man? They've said Venom isn't a part of the MCU, not that he isn't a part of the Spider-man license which Sony owns.
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(05-19-2017, 07:45 PM)
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This isn't going to leave pre-production phase.
broncobuster
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Originally Posted by Hero Prinny

still amazed they thought of doing that

They never did. It was a joke about other spin-offs and somewhere along the way people forgot it's BS.
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Originally Posted by Slate Soda

Didn't Sony's last try at Venom happen 10 years ago?

the scar still stings when a low pressure front comes through
strafer
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(05-19-2017, 07:47 PM)
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So Marvel will now have two cinematic universes?

Okay.
Anung
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Sony will fuck it up. They always do.
Kibbles
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A Venom movie with no Spiderman? Who's gonna stop him?

I'm confused
Busty
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(05-19-2017, 07:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by quesalupa

Where the fuck is my Aunt May movie.

For all intents and purposes it's Neon Demon.
Corpekata
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(05-19-2017, 07:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kibbles

A Venom movie with no Spiderman? Who's gonna stop him?

They are going the anti-hero Lethal Protector route most likely.

Outside of Spider-Man, Eddie Brock Venom was mostly just a violent vigilante like the Punisher.
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He's a scary guy.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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Originally Posted by Kibbles

A Venom movie with no Spiderman? Who's gonna stop him?

I'm confused



Obviously
Indrid Cold1
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Gonna be Lethal Protector or Agent Venom.
Dark Ninja
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Originally Posted by strafer

So Marvel will now have two cinematic universes?

Okay.

Sony: YES!

Maddness
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(05-19-2017, 07:51 PM)
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Huh.

So what if they worked a deal where Sony-verse is Miles and MCU-verse is Parker?
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Originally Posted by opricnik

They could cast a full CGI Spider Man you know right? Totally different costume from MCU one , older etc.
They dont need to explain one bit either since it wont be spidey movie

I don't think they would need to do that. From reading this thread I don't think people understand Sony still has the film rights they can do whatever they want with this current version of Spider-Man in standalone films (which Homecoming is). Everytime Spidey is in a Marvel produced movie there is a deal for the character to be there.
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Originally Posted by jon bones

we all rememver sony's last try at Venom

plus this means Venom wont be in the mcu

I don't know if something that old really matters anymore. Plus I don't really think Venom's that necessary to the MCU, but I can empathize if you were really looking forward to having him show up somewhere (I wouldn't though because of the Marvel track record with villains dying after their movie appearance).


As for the email leak, that was a decent amount of time ago too that I've also completely forgotten the contents of that email. What else was in that again?
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Originally Posted by Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!



Obviously

Imagine if Sony had the balls to make Scarlet Spider be the stand-in for Spider-Man with their universe.
Unspeakable Evil
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Originally Posted by strafer

So Marvel will now have two cinematic universes?

Okay.

Didn't they already? The Spider-Man movies weren't in MCU before homecoming. And what about X-men/FF/GR/Blade.. Ok I'll stop :p
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Odd that Hardy is now in the Sony's weird off brand Marvel universe.., which will eventually be folded into the Tom Holland Spider-Man films.

Odd that Hardy was assumed to be part of the DCU after he was attached to play Rick Flagg in Suicide Squad..., until he pulled out when he read the final script. Heh.

Odd that Sony are still pushing this film for an October 2018 release.

Hmmm. Odd. Odd. Odd.
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DEM TRAPS
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Originally Posted by Kibbles

A Venom movie with no Spiderman? Who's gonna stop him?

I'm confused

He'll be an anti-hero and the villain will be Carnage.
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Originally Posted by Maddness

Huh.

So what if they worked a deal where Sony-verse is Miles and MCU-verse is Parker?

They are not going to put two different versions of Spider-Man at the same time. Not a chance it will happen.
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I'd love for this to be rated an 18. Not gonna happen I know, but I've always wanted to see a violent/dark interpretation of Venom on the big screen. Venom is Spider-man 3 was a huge letdown. It needs to be a 15 at the very least.

Throw in Carnage and my tent is fully pitched.
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Originally Posted by Fallout-with-swords

I don't think they would need to do that. From reading this thread I don't think people understand Sony still has the film rights they can do whatever they want with this current version of Spider-Man in standalone films (which Homecoming is). Everytime Spidey is in a Marvel produced movie there is a deal for the character to be there.

Yeah I don't know why people are saying Holland won't be in Venom where all I've seen is just speculation and couldn't find it confirmed or reported anywhere

Nobody is going to see a Venom movie without Spider-Man guys. Nobody would dare try to create a Venom movie without Spider-Man, even Sony's dumbass
.la1n
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The director and lead actor combination fills me with more confidence than this type of announcement would normally provide. Cautiously optimistic assuming one of the two don't drop out.
Surfinn
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Seems like a goddamn good choice. I'm interested!
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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Originally Posted by BoogieWoogie

Imagine if Sony had the balls to make Scarlet Spider be the stand-in for Spider-Man with their universe.

TBF I think they can use real Spider-Man if they want to but they are choosing not to,
Toki767
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Maybe they should've done Agent Venom instead.
Ronin Ray
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Wouldn't you establish spider Gwen or Miles Miles Morales Spider-Man first?
Osukaa
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....dammit... now im a wee bit interested in the film now.
Corpekata
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Originally Posted by Deepwater

Yeah I don't know why people are saying Holland won't be in Venom where all I've seen is just speculation and couldn't find it confirmed or reported anywhere

Nobody is going to see a Venom movie without Spider-Man guys. Nobody would dare try to create a Venom movie without Spider-Man, even Sony's dumbass

If he was going to be in it why would they have not announced it by now?
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Tom hardy but Sony

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Originally Posted by Deepwater

Nobody is going to see a Venom movie without Spider-Man guys. Nobody would dare try to create a Venom movie without Spider-Man, even Sony's dumbass

Tom Rothman to Avi Arad: "Hold my beer."

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