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shira
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(05-19-2017, 04:23 AM)
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Originally Posted by shira



FORMAT: two GSL groups of 4, top 2 teams in each group advance to single elimination finals with bo5 gf. All other games bo3.

Today three Group A bo3s

1. Liquid vs FL
followed by
2. Newbee vs Vega
followed by
3. Winner 1 vs 2 (winner advances to final day)

*huge delays yesterday, except downtime

Miracle time bb
Hylian7
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(05-19-2017, 04:24 AM)
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Originally Posted by neurosisxeno

Seriously, how often do you end up in LP? I can't even remember the last time it happened to me...

I know the last time I ever had LPQ was when it was all random, and you also didn't have to win your games. I think I got it over having to leave, which happens to the best of us.
misses bull
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(05-19-2017, 04:35 AM)
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Originally Posted by neurosisxeno

Seriously, how often do you end up in LP? I can't even remember the last time it happened to me...

i havent been muted or in lp in over a year cause im a good boy
Chris R
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(05-19-2017, 05:02 AM)
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I won two games tonight, and got ~600 points.

Just 800 wins to the Io Arcana!

Originally Posted by neurosisxeno

Seriously, how often do you end up in LP? I can't even remember the last time it happened to me...

Last time I got LP it's because I was kinda feeding when I ended up with shit stacks playing when heavily intoxicated

tho I'm 3 8.6% beers deep tonight and fucking on point so IDK
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(05-19-2017, 05:06 AM)
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Originally Posted by Hylian7

I know the last time I ever had LPQ was when it was all random, and you also didn't have to win your games. I think I got it over having to leave, which happens to the best of us.

I have gotten LPQ like 3 times since 2011. It's to the point where I don't even get it in the rare instance that I do abandon a game.

Originally Posted by misses bull

i havent been muted or in lp in over a year cause im a good boy

shira
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(05-19-2017, 05:14 AM)
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Fucking Starladder

Originally Posted by Chris R

I won two games tonight, and got ~600 points.

Just 800 wins to the Io Arcana!

shira
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(05-19-2017, 06:02 AM)
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holy shit 1 hour late
NormalFish
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(05-19-2017, 06:31 AM)
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reddit actually seems excited about the shitty fucking io arcana. Knew those fuckers had issues.
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(05-19-2017, 06:33 AM)
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Originally Posted by NormalFish

reddit actually seems excited about the shitty fucking io arcana. Knew those fuckers had issues.

What's wrong with it?
TUSR
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(05-19-2017, 06:44 AM)
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the cake is a lie heh. . .
NormalFish
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(05-19-2017, 07:03 AM)
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Originally Posted by Pureauthor

What's wrong with it?

literally everything

Originally Posted by TUSR

the cake is a lie heh. . .

xd
Hylian7
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(05-19-2017, 07:08 AM)
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Originally Posted by NormalFish

reddit actually seems excited about the shitty fucking io arcana. Knew those fuckers had issues.

IMO it's at the point where it's so ridiculous it's good.
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(05-19-2017, 07:13 AM)
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Originally Posted by NormalFish

literally everything

I don't understand. They modified the base model, all the spell icons, all the spell animations, the death animation, and included new audio as well. As far as Arcanas go that's pretty much exactly what you could hope for.

What more could they have done to make it a worthwhile Arcana purchase in your eyes?
NormalFish
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(05-19-2017, 07:14 AM)
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Originally Posted by Pureauthor

I don't understand. They modified the base model, all the spell icons, all the spell animations, the death animation, and included new audio as well. As far as Arcanas go that's pretty much exactly what you could hope for.

What more could they have done to make it a worthwhile Arcana purchase in your eyes?

The visual design not inviting self loathing would be a good start
Sigismundo
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(05-19-2017, 07:16 AM)
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https://www.twitch.tv/dotastarladder_en

Apparently removing the top/bot shrines causes sub-20 minute highground pushes.
Pureauthor
(05-19-2017, 07:19 AM)
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Originally Posted by NormalFish

The visual design not inviting self loathing would be a good start

Do you have something against hearts?

Originally Posted by Sigismundo

https://www.twitch.tv/dotastarladder_en

Apparently removing the top/bot shrines causes sub-20 minute highground pushes.

I am pretty sure that has more to do with Faceless being bad.
Hylian7
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(05-19-2017, 07:20 AM)
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Something I thought of: is there any reason they can't make items in the backpack not visible to enemies? Would be useful to keep pieces of things there so the enemy doesn't see what you are building, and you might be able to complete it at secret shop.

It could also be used to hide wards, smoke, or dust, but you still have the swap cooldown.
shira
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(05-19-2017, 07:23 AM)
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Stomped
Sigismundo
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(05-19-2017, 07:24 AM)
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Originally Posted by Pureauthor

I am pretty sure that has more to do with Faceless being bad.

This is also true.
sleverfunk
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(05-19-2017, 07:44 AM)
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IO arcana sings still alive if it kills somebody.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDNJ...ature=youtu.be
Big-E
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(05-19-2017, 07:47 AM)
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Had a normal match which had someone with a 2278 level battle pass. I thought people with 400 were high.
shira
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(05-19-2017, 07:55 AM)
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PA, Magnus, slark
neurosisxeno
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(05-19-2017, 08:05 AM)
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Originally Posted by sleverfunk

IO arcana sings still alive if it kills somebody.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDNJ...ature=youtu.be

Okay, they may have nailed what seemed like a really cheesy idea...
Wok
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(05-19-2017, 11:29 AM)
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Originally Posted by neurosisxeno

Okay, they may have nailed what seemed like a really cheesy idea...

The use of portals for relocate is already an amazing idea. Additional easter eggs just make it even better.
Sigismundo
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(05-19-2017, 12:00 PM)
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This is not a good LAN for China. They've won a total of one game.
neurosisxeno
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(05-19-2017, 12:25 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sigismundo

This is not a good LAN for China. They've won a total of one game.

The region has been on a downward trend since TI6. I would argue even longer than that considering a Chinese team hasn't even made it to the finals in a single Major.
Sigismundo
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(05-19-2017, 01:00 PM)
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After a total of 347 hours The International 2017 is $1,087,354 (13.39%) ahead of The International 2016.

I wonder how many of the people that dumped money into the compendium know how to play Io.
neurosisxeno
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(05-19-2017, 01:09 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sigismundo

I wonder how many of the people that dumped money into the compendium know how to play Io.

I've been playing DotA since like 2005 and I don't know how Io works...

Well, I know what the hero does, and how to play against it, just not how to play it.

EDIT: Efficiency boys. 108 LH+DN at 10 minutes.
Last edited by neurosisxeno; 05-19-2017 at 02:35 PM.
Wok
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(05-19-2017, 01:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by neurosisxeno

Well, I know what the hero does, and how to play against it, just not how to play it.

I would say playing Io involves:
  • either an unrealistic ability to armlet toggle,
  • or a good timing for stacking neutral camps multiple times, and a pairing buddy over voice chat.
Pureauthor
(05-19-2017, 02:06 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sigismundo

This is not a good LAN for China. They've won a total of one game.

Well it's the West's turn to win TI anyway.
rakkadakka
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(05-19-2017, 02:09 PM)
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Never marketable, never tradeable, if you want to just outright pay for it without playing a million games it's more than 3 times the price of a regular Arcana. Available for a limited time from Valve TM!

The only redeeming factor here for the Io arcana is that people can play to earn it.

Even that is offset by the sheer number of hours you'd have to play to get it.
Hylian7
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(05-19-2017, 02:17 PM)
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Originally Posted by neurosisxeno

I've been playing DotA since like 2005 and I don't know how Io works...

Well, I know what the hero does, and how to play against it, just not how to play it.

EDIT: Efficiency boys. 108 LH at 10 minutes.

That's really misleading: You really mean 108 LH + Deny. My first thought when I heard "108 LH" was "How?!?!"
J2d
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(05-19-2017, 02:31 PM)
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Originally Posted by rakkadakka

Never marketable, never tradeable, if you want to just outright pay for it without playing a million games it's more than 3 times the price of a regular Arcana. Available for a limited time from Valve TM!

The only redeeming factor here for the Io arcana is that people can play to earn it.

Even that is offset by the sheer number of hours you'd have to play to get it.

I doubt anyone could get to that lvl without a shitload of luck :/
neurosisxeno
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(05-19-2017, 02:35 PM)
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Originally Posted by Hylian7

That's really misleading: You really mean 108 LH + Deny. My first thought when I heard "108 LH" was "How?!?!"

Fixed for Pedantic7.
shira
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(05-19-2017, 05:18 PM)
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Seems kinda dumb that Secret and Navi are playing for EPICENTER slot

I'm guessing they both get invited anyway
Wok
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(05-19-2017, 06:15 PM)
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Free.

bbd23
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(05-19-2017, 06:19 PM)
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VP seems like a toxic ass team lmao

but I kinda like it.
shira
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(05-19-2017, 06:22 PM)
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Originally Posted by Wok

Free.

It's a mess. Why didn't they combine it with what's going on in-game
bbd23
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(05-19-2017, 06:50 PM)
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true sight is such a great series

that was awesome.
fr0st
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(05-19-2017, 06:57 PM)
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S4 muted kappa
Monochromaticx
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(05-19-2017, 06:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by shira

It's a mess. Why didn't they combine it with what's going on in-game

yeah where is the gameplay??

i hope some redditor will edit the gameplay footage in. side by side
Last edited by Monochromaticx; 05-19-2017 at 07:14 PM.
Randdalf
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(05-19-2017, 07:40 PM)
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I don't think the gameplay is the point of this, it's more about how these teams interact with each other during and between the games. That said, I'd really like a raw feed of the audio during games so somebody could edit it together with the footage, but that's not what Valve were going for with this. Notice how the majority of the audio is not the usual minute chit-chat about Dota, but about the camaraderie and tension between the members of the two teams.

Personally, I think it's a fascinating insight into what's really going on during a competitive Dota game. You can really tell OG were winning this by boosting Ana's confidence, to get themselves right on a psychological level.
shira
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(05-19-2017, 07:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by Randdalf

I don't think the gameplay is the point of this, it's more about how these teams interact with each other during and between the games. That said, I'd really like a raw feed of the audio during games so somebody could edit it together with the footage, but that's not what Valve were going for with this. Notice how the majority of the audio is not the usual minute chit-chat about Dota, but about the camaraderie and tension between the members of the two teams.

Personally, I think it's a fascinating insight into what's really going on during a competitive Dota game. You can really tell OG were winning this by boosting Ana's confidence, to get themselves right on a psychological level.

It makes a lot more sense when they get to the final match.
Twookie
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(05-19-2017, 08:00 PM)
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watching OG win and VP lose is so much more satisfying now that they were so goddamn cocky
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(05-19-2017, 08:04 PM)
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Originally Posted by shira

It makes a lot more sense when they get to the final match.

Eh. I dunno. I feel like, as I said, it wasn't really the point of the documentary? Like, if you abstract this away from Dota, it's really about how two very good teams behave when competing at the highest level.

It was also really well edited with regards to how they linked OG and VP together. Like how one team basically says "we'll just pick Blah because I want to play him" and the other one is like "it's all part of some master plan!" Their behaviour actually reminds me a lot of how I feel when watching Dota, especially when considering the drafts and how absorbed you can get into the mini-meta of a single BO5.
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(05-19-2017, 08:32 PM)
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Forgot to use my slark balls
Twookie
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(05-19-2017, 08:43 PM)
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The mental fortitude from n0tail and Fly is really impressive, the way they manage to untilt Ana after the losses is definitely one of the major reasons they won this final.
shira
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(05-19-2017, 09:19 PM)
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Originally Posted by Twookie

The mental fortitude from n0tail and Fly is really impressive, the way they manage to untilt Ana after the losses is definitely one of the major reasons they won this final.

Compared to the fnatic trainwreck
Red UFO
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(05-19-2017, 10:58 PM)
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I love the way they focus purely on the people in True Sight. Really good stuff.
shira
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(05-20-2017, 12:53 AM)
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Lul vote ur fave team for epicenter final slot

Navi
LGD
Faceless
NP

http://epicenter.gg/en/press/voting

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