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Wafflecakes
(04-21-2017, 03:30 PM)
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Originally Posted by Valdfellgar

Yay my second beta reader went waaaay better than my first. My first beta reader was a bit condescending with their feedback, and gradually was giving more and more feedback which showed they weren't even reading really anymore (asking questions that were answered In the text, claiming things happened one way when they clearly didn't, etc. constantly fudging details.) I also started to get the impression they really just wanted it to be a different book.

My second beta reader though was a blast. Much better suggestions, feedback and also really liked the book a lot.

Just curious. Where do you find beta readers?

I am currently not at a stage of my writing where I need readers, but I think it would be instructional to alpha/beta read for someone else.
Valdfellgar
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(04-21-2017, 03:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by Wafflecakes

Just curious. Where do you find beta readers?

I am currently not at a stage of my writing where I need readers, but I think it would be instructional to alpha/beta read for someone else.

Let's see, I ultimately found a total of 3 Beta Readers across two different groups. Good Reads has a couple Beta Reader communities, but if you're writing anything beyond Thrillers and Romance don't expect a lot of responses. I ultimately had one response to my post (the meh beta reader) and I had to reach out to another offering her services and she's yet to read my stuff because she's in such high demand she has a queue.

There's also some Beta Reading Groups on Facebook, but again unless you're writing the really popular genres (and scifi/fantasy isn't one of them) expect only a handful of Beta Readers offering to check out your stuff. Hope that helps.

If you're looking to Beta Read for right now, to get a sense for it and to help with your own writing you're welcome to look at my work, but if you're looking for specific genres you should have ample offerings on either Good Reads or Facebook Groups. There's way more authors than interested Beta Readers.

Though don't try and turn it into a critique buddy situation. Not that I'm saying you will, but some Beta Readers try parley a beta read into a critique partnership, and that's generally frowned upon in these communities. People prefer others be up front about wanting to exchange feedback. That's been my experience anyway.
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(04-22-2017, 05:22 PM)
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Originally Posted by Wafflecakes

Naw. Copyright covers it the moment you hit the keys on your keyboard.

No editor would ever tank their career over that.


More likely with writing groups, but still not really a concern.



Okay, this is a relief. Thanks man < 3
JasonMCG
(04-24-2017, 10:13 PM)
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I'm continually amazed how much is changing between my first and second drafts. Notwithstanding the overall quality of writing, placement of events and shifting perspectives, and adding wrinkles to the narrative with additional details has really made the story come together.

That said, is it common to move entire chapters around? The first portion of my story is really focused on relationships, and I've reached a point where I think I've said enough and don't want to run the risk of being overly verbose. I have a chapter WAAAAY toward the end that can be restructured to work within the story and advance it nicely, but it would essentially mean re-writing one, and starting a new one from scratch to fill the gap. Is this approach typical for some of you guys?
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Bishop89
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(04-25-2017, 04:26 AM)
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Apologies for posting this here but I couldn't find a more relevant thread, and I figure the people in this thread would be at the very least creative :P

I want to create a brand, that I can build a blog around and hopefully later on scale it to become a business of sorts however I have been stuck on naming it for so damn long. This is probably the hardest thing for me to come up with.

I'm not posting here for you guys to suggest names to me, I just want to know on how you would create a name for yourself, how to get those creative juices flowing.

I suppose this could apply to the novels you guys are writing too.

Where do you draw inspiration from?
Your hobbies, things you love and are into?
Just slap a couple of random words together?
Make up words?
Google translate words from other languages? lol


If this post is not allowed in this thread I'd be more than happy to be directed to a more relevant OT. Couldn't find a business or blog |OT| anywhere! :(
Mr-Joker
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(04-25-2017, 01:05 PM)
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Been awhile since I posted in here but I was busy with real life as I got into a dental nursing course then Breath of the Wild came and went.

But I didn't waver and still kept working on my book and I please that progress is going smoothly, really can't wait to see the finished version, get other people to read it for feedback and then begin the editing process.

Originally Posted by Bishop89

Where do you draw inspiration from?

Anywhere really, it could be from a show I am watching, a game I am playing, experience from my life or from current event.

As for naming well, I tend to throw a lot of names onto the board and then pick one one that that I feel suits the project.
AngmarsKing701
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(04-25-2017, 03:13 PM)
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Originally Posted by Bishop89

Where do you draw inspiration from?

I find myself inspired by the dark ages, of the fact that so much of the written word was either lost or those who filled in the gaps of the Fall of Rome had more of an oral history component than a written one.

Which basically leaves several centuries open for the imagination to fill in with the written word.

Ahvarra (my first novel) is set partially in our future and partially in a separate world, but that separate world has roots in the dark ages. Don't want to reveal too much in case any of you still plan on reading it.

What I'm working on now, from the writing challenge, is set on the British Isles directly in the wake of the Roman departure. No magic, but I'm leaning heavily on an existing legend to tell the "truth" that then becomes embellished by bards in an oral history later.

And I've also been working with my friend from college on a co-authored piece that is set in dark ages Europe.
Lois_Lane
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(05-01-2017, 03:48 AM)
Does anyone write M/M?
sirap
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(05-01-2017, 02:34 PM)
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Originally Posted by Lois_Lane

Does anyone write M/M?

I do
Lois_Lane
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(05-01-2017, 09:08 PM)

Originally Posted by sirap

I do

Shit really?? Where do you find your critique partners?
Conkersbadfurday
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(05-01-2017, 10:00 PM)
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Today I start draft three! I picked a week to be sober because I drink too much :( This is gonna be hard.
FlowersisBritish
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(05-01-2017, 10:17 PM)
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Originally Posted by Conkersbadfurday

Today I start draft three! I picked a week to be sober because I drink too much :( This is gonna be hard.

Well at least you have something to distract you from the drink!
toddhunter
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(05-01-2017, 11:09 PM)
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Originally Posted by Lois_Lane

Does anyone write M/M?

What is that?
sirap
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(05-02-2017, 01:46 AM)
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Originally Posted by Lois_Lane

Shit really?? Where do you find your critique partners?

I don't really have one...I like to publish fast so that means forgoing any sort of editing :P
AngmarsKing701
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(05-04-2017, 04:20 PM)
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Happy Star Wars Day, my writing friends. It's been a little while since I gave a 2017 Writing Challenge update, so here goes:

The Knight's Journal I, a collection of the first three novellas, went live on World Book Day, April 23rd. At $4.99 it's a bargain over the $9 someone would pay for the first three combined at full price. I'll run a sale on it a little later, as novella 5 is coming out.

Novella #4, Knight Transcendent, went live as planned on May 1st (might have been Apr 30th depending on where you live).

As of today and for the next five days, the first novella, Knight Descendent, is free. I've been tweeting about it today, tying it into Star Wars (Knights, Empire crumbling, etc.).

From the sales side, still in a little bit of a muddle. I am actually seeing some pages being read on Kindle Unlimited, so some of this is picking up a bit, but no sales in the last 30 days. I have a couple of Goodreads reviews for the first two novellas.

Also, for anyone playing along, this is going to merge into a very famous legend here soon. I've been dropping tidbits. I have one fan on GAF who is reading along and we have been interacting. He can't guess it yet (he's finished book 2 and is enjoying it) but he knows there's some big reveal coming. It'll be interesting to see whether book 4 makes people think "oh shit" or whether it's still just "is he <insert legendary character here>...?" Obviously, the game is to get folks to wonder if that is the case and to keep them engaged in reading along to find out.

Now, novella 5 is underway and I'm still a little bit ahead (through May 3rd I was at 4500 words), but there's personal stuff going on (my mom is very sick--long-term kind of sick--and me and my sibs are helping out my dad). Hopefully I can keep on this pace in the limited spare time I have, because at this point it's actually therapeutic for me to get my mind off of that.

Edit - also, wanted to ask how legit that fiverr link was before? I started to go through the process and it was asking for payment before requesting any book links or author info. Seemed sketchy so I backed out and thought I'd ask to make sure someone has used it before.
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Soulfire
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(05-04-2017, 04:42 PM)
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Awesome update! Happy to see that you're still doing this. I've used Fivr several times, bknights specifically, it's a legitimate site and the seller has been good to me. I've had decent results from them and the one time I didn't they actually refunded the sale.
AngmarsKing701
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(05-04-2017, 09:07 PM)
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Originally Posted by Soulfire

Awesome update! Happy to see that you're still doing this. I've used Fivr several times, bknights specifically, it's a legitimate site and the seller has been good to me. I've had decent results from them and the one time I didn't they actually refunded the sale.

Thanks, Soulfire! Hope all is going well with you and the new baby!

I'll proceed with the promotion to tie it into the collection going on sale.
zulux21
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(05-08-2017, 05:41 AM)
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I am finally writing again.
things aren't flowing well, but I think the basic ideas are solid and that is all that really matters to me in a first draft lol.

here's hoping may is productive now that horizon and persona are done >.<;
Lois_Lane
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(05-11-2017, 03:59 AM)

Originally Posted by toddhunter

What is that?

Gay porn for straight women mostly.
RoyaleDuke
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(05-11-2017, 04:18 AM)
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So I've entered the editing phase for my book The Tartarus Syndrome, even have it up for preorder on amazon for digital as I am still editing the physical version as well as the digital one and they both need two different types of formatting. I got the formatting done and the first couple chapters of each edited and revised.

So far I'm finding that I did myself a favor in that I made sure make very few mistakes, and need very little to any revision work which I find surprising although some of the feedback from people I've shared it with have come to the same consensus that the characters and story are incredibly strong, especially the world. Which I personally can't see but I like what I've written, but as an artist I want my art to be consumed by others.

I need someone to do the OT for when the book releases too. :/
toddhunter
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(05-11-2017, 12:45 PM)
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Originally Posted by Lois_Lane

Gay porn for straight women mostly.

Oh. So not chocolate related.

Or maybe it is.
SolVanderlyn
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(05-11-2017, 01:24 PM)
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Finally got in the flow again.

I think I pushed myself past my previous skill ceiling. My chapters feel more "real" and vivid now. It's really pushed me to continue even with all of the self doubt I have.

Side effect of writing creatively: my dreams are MUCH more vivid now. They've graduated from conceptual ideas to solid sequences of events, sometimes like a movie. Has anyone else experienced this? It makes me think that improving your creative writing skills changes the way your brain thinks of things.
Lois_Lane
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(05-11-2017, 03:44 PM)

Originally Posted by toddhunter

Oh. So not chocolate related.

Or maybe it is.

Its sex. Everything is related to it.
Emerson
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(05-12-2017, 03:06 PM)
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Things have been going relatively well here for me. Hit 105,000 words on my novel, getting very close to the end. So much still to do!

Along the way, took a little break to self-publish a short story on Amazon. Made a couple bucks. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
NipplesAndToes23
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(05-15-2017, 05:38 PM)
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I've been working on this long ass analysis/review of a recent TV show like it's 5,000 words right now and I'm only half way through. I was wondering if there are any contests I can submit to for something like this. Since I've put so much time into it it would be good if I could get some compensation for it.
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(05-15-2017, 06:56 PM)
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One of my short short pieces has been published in the Beautiful Thing section of River Teeth: A Journal of Nonfiction Narrative.

What Matters

If anyone is interested in writing flash nonfiction (<250 words), they`re a good place to submit.
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(05-15-2017, 07:16 PM)
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Originally Posted by BorkBork

One of my short short pieces has been published in the Beautiful Thing section of River Teeth: A Journal of Nonfiction Narrative.

What Matters

If anyone is interested in writing flash nonfiction (<250 words), they`re a good place to submit.

Congrats ^_^
Timu
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(05-15-2017, 07:29 PM)
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Man, I really need to get to work on Nano, I'll be screwed if I don't work on it this summer.
FlowersisBritish
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(05-15-2017, 08:19 PM)
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Originally Posted by BorkBork

One of my short short pieces has been published in the Beautiful Thing section of River Teeth: A Journal of Nonfiction Narrative.

What Matters

If anyone is interested in writing flash nonfiction (<250 words), they`re a good place to submit.

Congrats! Gave it a read and you continue to be pretty good Bork Bork. Really enjoyed the bit with the sticky notes and the connection between the makeup of the universe and people's own togetherness.
Mr-Joker
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(05-16-2017, 01:27 AM)
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So I decided that I really want to 100% focus on writing as it's what I love doing, I decided to withdraw from my dental nursing course, I wasn't enjoying it and the pay was terrible for the amount of work I was doing, and instead do a post graduate degree in creative writing.

Already working hard on a short story to send off with my application.
Conkersbadfurday
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(05-16-2017, 01:52 AM)
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Editing has been so fucking boring lately. Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugh.

i think i'ts that the chapters aren't bad but they aren't good and mediocre sucks.
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(05-16-2017, 05:07 AM)
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Originally Posted by Delio

Congrats ^_^

Originally Posted by FlowersisBritish

Congrats! Gave it a read and you continue to be pretty good Bork Bork. Really enjoyed the bit with the sticky notes and the connection between the makeup of the universe and people's own togetherness.

Thanks! This took a year and probably a good half a dozen submissions. It's interesting - writing creative nonfiction is already about filtering one's experience rather than building it up, and writing extreme flash like this really is an exercise in cutting and distilling more than anything.
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(05-18-2017, 10:03 PM)
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Might be of interest to GAF writers - Cartridge Lit, a videogame focused lit mag, is seeking submissions.

http://cartridgelit.com/submissions/

Deadline for their summer issue is May 31. They've published some good stuff, like this.
Ghostshark
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(05-19-2017, 11:39 PM)
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A consistent piece of advice advice most authors give to fledglings is to read voraciously. I do that, but often through audiobooks due to convenience. Will I still get the same benefit, or is reading on page / screen significantly better?
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(05-19-2017, 11:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by Ghostshark

A consistent piece of advice advice most authors give to fledglings is to read voraciously. I do that, but often through audiobooks due to convenience. Will I still get the same benefit, or is reading on page / screen significantly better?

it's just about thinking about words man, whether you read them or hear them is different for absorbtion perhaps but the main thing is that you're exposed to many ways of piecing together thoughts
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(05-20-2017, 12:15 AM)
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Originally Posted by Ghostshark

A consistent piece of advice advice most authors give to fledglings is to read voraciously. I do that, but often through audiobooks due to convenience. Will I still get the same benefit, or is reading on page / screen significantly better?

Absolutely. In fact I think audiobooks might even be better when figuring out the sound of language. I find that great passages stick in my mind when listened to and often influence my own writing.
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(05-20-2017, 12:27 AM)
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Originally Posted by Ghostshark

A consistent piece of advice advice most authors give to fledglings is to read voraciously. I do that, but often through audiobooks due to convenience. Will I still get the same benefit, or is reading on page / screen significantly better?

Oftentimes I find myself writing something and saying it out loud to see if it "clicks." I can think something is well described or a line is cool and then hear it audibly and think "wow, ok, nevermind."

So, yeah, audiobooks are good too. Like was said above, hearing how others piece together their thoughts is what's really important. Helps with finding your own voice, and ultimately with getting closer to a 1:1 head-to-paper ratio.
Wafflecakes
(05-20-2017, 03:57 AM)
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Anyone know of a resource which allows you to look at a published book by a reasonable author including all steps of the writing process to watch the evolution?

I am getting a bit down with how garbage my first drafts are.
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I'll be a bit against the stream here and say that reading is really important because it gives you visual understanding of how grammar works. You might think you know how a comma works from pauses vut you dont because thatd not actually how commas work.
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(05-20-2017, 07:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by FlowersisBritish

I'll be a bit against the stream here and say that reading is really important because it gives you visual understanding of how grammar works. You might think you know how a comma works from pauses vut you dont because thatd not actually how commas work.

This is a really good point. Commas, semicolons, dashes, elipses, etc. I've gone back to other books to doublecheck that I was using these correctly before. Helps a lot.
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Hi, writing GAF! Long time no see. I haven't written any fiction, really, since starting my PhD program but this summer I'm writing a nonfiction book for a small press (already contracted) so I may be in and out for whining/railing/support/general tomfoolery. Collaborative project with a draft due in October. Very excited but also kinda nervous since my attention span is not always super great and I've got a lot of things to work on this summer beyond this!
Lois_Lane
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Am I the only person sick of YA? I'm constantly searching to form critique partnership relationships, because I work best with someone else, yet every post calling for a partner wants YA. I finally managed to grab someone for my M/M fantasy novel and she just switched her romance for a contemporary YA novel.

Teenagers are not that interesting.
Soulfire
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Originally Posted by Lois_Lane

Am I the only person sick of YA? I'm constantly searching to form critique partnership relationships, because I work best with someone else, yet every post calling for a partner wants YA. I finally managed to grab someone for my M/M fantasy novel and she just switched her romance for a contemporary YA novel.

Teenagers are not that interesting.

YA is so angsty and annoying, it's filled with teenagers making stupid emotional decisions. Every now and then I read a good one but most of them nearly have me rolling my eyes out of my head from how dumb the characters are. The Lois Lane books by Gwenda Bond are excellent and the Star Wars Lost Stars book was amazing, but those are the only recent ones I can think of, admittedly I've stopped reading that genre because I couldn't take it anymore. It's like they weren't written for a thirty year old woman or something.
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Originally Posted by Soulfire

YA is so angsty and annoying, it's filled with teenagers making stupid emotional decisions. Every now and then I read a good one but most of them nearly have me rolling my eyes out of my head from how dumb the characters are. The Lois Lane books by Gwenda Bond are excellent and the Star Wars Lost Stars book was amazing, but those are the only recent ones I can think of, admittedly I've stopped reading that genre because I couldn't take it anymore. It's like they weren't written for a thirty year old woman or something.

I can stand good YA too but most are freaking cliche-ridden garbage. I don't understand why it's this genre dominating the online boards when we've seen a resurgence in good sci-fi,fantasy, and superhero fic. I just want a regular old sci-fi fic to swap with that doesn't have a love triangle or an angsty brat with no reason to complain.
zulux21
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Originally Posted by Lois_Lane

Am I the only person sick of YA? I'm constantly searching to form critique partnership relationships, because I work best with someone else, yet every post calling for a partner wants YA. I finally managed to grab someone for my M/M fantasy novel and she just switched her romance for a contemporary YA novel.

Teenagers are not that interesting.

I don't mind young adult, and my writing was originally YA (though based on japanese YA not american), when i decided i needed to do a rewrite to re-balance a lot of things I aged everyone up. My main character is still what I personally would consider a young adult, but at 21 years old he isn't an angsty teenager. I would expect I would get a complaint that he is to level headed and intelligent before I ever get a complaint he is angsty or making dumb decisions from emotions lol.

Originally Posted by Lois_Lane

I can stand good YA too but most are freaking cliche-ridden garbage. I don't understand why it's this genre dominating the online boards when we've seen a resurgence in good sci-fi,fantasy, and superhero fic. I just want a regular old sci-fi fic to swap with that doesn't have a love triangle or an angsty brat with no reason to complain.

Is it still a love triangle if the main pairing is obvious that they only care about each other that way, the competition never has any meaningful competition, and not that long after the competition tries to make a move, they are shot down, made clear that it will never happen, and the main pairing is firmly cemented as a couple :P? I mean I hate the long drawn out love triangle, but basically making fun of love triangles was fun to plan :P
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Lois_Lane
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Originally Posted by zulux21




Is it still a love triangle if the main pairing is obvious that they only care about each other that way, the competition never has any meaningful competition, and not that long after the competition tries to make a move, they are shot down, made clear that it will never happen, and the main pairing is firmly cemented as a couple :P? I mean I hate the long drawn out love triangle, but basically making fun of love triangles was fun to plan :P

See what your writing isn't cliche. It's actually a fun idea I'd love to read. What is cliche is the constant will they or won't they nonsense infecting so many YA novels. For god sake your teenagers! You'll be dating someone else in a year or two I swear. Stop the obsession.
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A 21 year old protagonist would probably fall into the New Adult genre, it has a lot of the same tropes as YA only they aren't usually as stupid.
Also, I don't know if that would be considered a love triangle, it sounds refreshing though. One of my most hated tropes is the love triangle, characters that string along multiple partners for long lengths of time cause me an unreasonable amount of fury. Not sure why it bothers me so but I'll stop reading a series if that shit isn't handled quickly. Apparently my brain is also always on the lookout for clues that one's coming up and I'll start to feel a growing sense of dread as they start to pile up.
zulux21
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Originally Posted by Lois_Lane

See what your writing isn't cliche. It's actually a fun idea I'd love to read. What is cliche is the constant will they or won't they nonsense infecting so many YA novels. For god sake your teenagers! You'll be dating someone else in a year or two I swear. Stop the obsession.

To be honest my writing is full of the basis of cliches. Rather than try to avoid cliches I find it far easier and more enjoyable to let them come if they come and then make sure to not let them remain the normal cliche.

For example my main character would fall into a chosen hero cliche. That being said, he has no real motivations to be a hero, no want to save anyone but those close to him, actively tries to ignore any chosen stuff and eventually confirms what he believes from the start that the idea of someone having a set destiny is stupid by uncovering that he was in fact the 6th chosen one of which the first 5 died pathetically without doing anything.

I really do need to get back to writing soon though. If i don't write I can't eventually get to the end to finish the journey and get reactions to the big twist ending I have been setting up since early on lol.

Originally Posted by Soulfire

A 21 year old protagonist would probably fall into the New Adult genre, it has a lot of the same tropes as YA only they aren't usually as stupid.
Also, I don't know if that would be considered a love triangle, it sounds refreshing though. One of my most hated tropes is the love triangle, characters that string along multiple partners for long lengths of time cause me an unreasonable amount of fury. Not sure why it bothers me so but I'll stop reading a series if that shit isn't handled quickly. Apparently my brain is also always on the lookout for clues that one's coming up and I'll start to feel a growing sense of dread as they start to pile up.

yeah the story itself wouldn't really be young adult anymore. a lot of the themes I wanted to cover just went to dark to keep it within young adult. I have a nasty habit of trying to physically and mentally break my main character >.>

But yeah long drawn out love triangles are annoying. That being said for the purposes of entertainment it's easier to make a relationship like that interesting than a stable normal relationship, same with the will they won't they. It was one of the rules I made from the start when I decided romance would be part of the story though. That the main couple would get together and have a stable relationship even if I introduce others that are interested in either of them. While I don't mind letting a cliche come I have a list of rules I won't let my writing touch. Another one is that the main female is not allowed to just become a damsel in distress. I haven't ruled out that she can't get in a situation that she needs saved from, but in general she will be the one doing the saving (if it is needed) not my main male character.

Either way I need to sit down with my new 2 in 1 tablet and see how writing on it is, to see if i can't be a little better about writing on the go. Due to a wrist injury I still can't write by hand on the go for very long (about a page before I have to stop for 20-30 minutes due to pain) but luckily typing doesn't hurt my wrist as I barely move my write while typing.
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Conkersbadfurday
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Originally Posted by Lois_Lane

Am I the only person sick of YA? I'm constantly searching to form critique partnership relationships, because I work best with someone else, yet every post calling for a partner wants YA. I finally managed to grab someone for my M/M fantasy novel and she just switched her romance for a contemporary YA novel.

Teenagers are not that interesting.

I mostly hate it because the good stuff is hard to find. The stuff that is good I generally just call "fiction" and not YA because calling it YA makes me feel bad :P But there is good stuff out there.

I did write a YA book, but it's more in the protag's age than anything else. It's a horror book, which helps.

Course no one fucking wants YA horror because that's not marketable so hoorah for no agent bites in like three fuckin' months.

Edit: Keep in mind that YA isn't a genre but a market. When people set out to write YA, it always makes my head spin because it means they want a specific market--and one that's booming so hello money grab--and not a genre they like. More often than not it's probably just poor wording on their part and me being a cynical piece of shit, but there ya go.
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(Yesterday, 07:27 PM)
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So here we are seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. 114k words. 40 chapters, and 3 more to go.

It's really a crazy feeling.

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