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-Pyromaniac-
(01-12-2017, 12:56 AM)
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Latest marketshare numbers in select countries for lulz. Windows Phone is almost 100% dead in the USA.


And I said it already but if Canada is getting the P10 this summer then america is definitely going to get it too. Maybe not definitely but it's usually the case 90% of the time.
wilflare
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(01-12-2017, 01:14 AM)
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still waiting for the OTA for my Nexus 6P.
maybe I should just get myself to sideload it then :/

ugh. it only Samsung sold its Exynos chips... they've proven themselves to be quite something (than the Snapdragon lol)
-Pyromaniac-
(01-12-2017, 01:31 AM)
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LG is about to release the ideal smartphone apparently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wr-N5cZBcl0

Jeffrey
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(01-12-2017, 01:46 AM)
Reliable LG eh?🤔



Originally Posted by DrFunk

^^

The US version didn't get the supercharger? Lol I felt odd because I got it with my international version, but can't use it.

It comes with one. But I can't get another for the office unless I import.

US one is missing themes too for some reason.
The Faceless Master
(01-12-2017, 01:55 AM)
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Originally Posted by -Pyromaniac-

LG is about to release the ideal smartphone apparently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wr-N5cZBcl0

i guess headphone jack was on the cutting room floor.
-bakalhau-
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(01-12-2017, 01:59 AM)
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Originally Posted by Vanillalite

This. I'm fine paying less and getting 90% of the package.


Originally Posted by Jazzy Network

I think the P9 looks better and it has a metal body and better CPU. I'd rather pay a bit more tbh. And anyway they could release both. Choices are always nice.

I wanna start posting in this thread, I'll mostly or exclusively post on Huawei matters, I just want people to not find that weird and understand why, so I guess I'll share that I'm Huawei's brand keeper in Portugal's possibly biggest retail store in the country. Not a huge country, but quite interestingly where Huawei is having a resounding success, by far the best performing European market. My job is to sell and promote this brand and as such as I love Neogaf I just wanna get in on the discussion and possibly help with some questions anyone has and obviously give my opinion on some discussion, always keeping an imparcial tone on them. So feel free to ask anything, and I'll try and answer within what I know and can say.

There are some other small differences that Huawei sticks in the P series to distinguish it from the Honor equivalent, like the VIP service (+1 year warranty, 3 months screen warranty, and 3 month product replacement on the P9), for example, to give the P series a "more distinguishable" premium feeling.

But I mean, despite an arguably more premium body, a very very slightly faster CPU and the extra warranty, you can't go wrong with the Honor 8. It's a great deal and 200 euros/dollars less. Also comes with 4GB RAM, at least in Europe. Honor brand is exactly for the budget oriented consumer and you gain very little by going for the P9 over the Honor 8.


Originally Posted by Jeffrey

think they will first gauge how mate 9 does. Maybe release P10 later this year?

We're getting in on USA for good regardless of how Mate 9 does there, USA is a huge market, specially at this point for brand awareness and recognition. I don't know whether the P10 will launch there but the objective is to get the whole family available, as Honor is not regarded as an objective for sales/market share so it's not Huawei's true focus in not-low-cost markets.


Originally Posted by Jeffrey

mate 9 is a rushed launch though, like there is no way to buy the 'super charger' anywhere atm in the US. Just called their customer service and they confirmed they will sell them eventually lol.

So you guys don't get the fast charger bundled? You get a normal charger? That's ridiculous, it's easily one of the best features of the phone. 50% charge in 20 minutes, it never ceases to amaze me even after 2 months.

You can't get the charger separately in Europe either, you gotta order one from Huawei directly, and can't buy any in physical retail.


Edit: oh I see it comes included, good then. When you mean import it, you import it from like Amazon UK or something?

2nd edit: if anyone got any question about Mate 9 I can try and help, been using one for 2 months now.
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-Pyromaniac-
(01-12-2017, 02:08 AM)
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Originally Posted by The Faceless Master

i guess headphone jack was on the cutting room floor.

it's a shame no one in the video said less shitty software
teiresias
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(01-12-2017, 02:14 AM)
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Really getting impatient for Nougat on my Moto Z Play - that Wifi certification happened weeks ago dammit!!
LeleSocho
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(01-12-2017, 02:50 AM)
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Originally Posted by -bakalhau-

I wanna start posting in this thread, I'll mostly or exclusively post on Huawei matters, I just want people to not find that weird and understand why, so I guess I'll share that I'm Huawei's brand keeper in Portugal's possibly biggest retail store in the country. Not a huge country, but quite interestingly where Huawei is having a resounding success, by far the best performing European market. My job is to sell and promote this brand and as such as I love Neogaf I just wanna get in on the discussion and possibly help with some questions anyone has and obviously give my opinion on some discussion, always keeping an imparcial tone on them. So feel free to ask anything, and I'll try and answer within what I know and can say.

I don't understand, are you paid by Huawei?
Also wasn't Italy the biggest European market for them (and the second worldwide)?
Jazzy Network
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(01-12-2017, 02:53 AM)
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Honor 8 coming tomorrow. Can't wait. Hope EMUI 4.1 isn't as bad as I think it is. Even if it is though, 5.0 should be just around the corner.

Also I played around with the Mate 9 at Best Buy today. Fucking beautiful phone. It's just too damn big for my liking. The software was really nice. EMUI definitely has fixed a lot of 4.1 issues.
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-bakalhau-
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(01-12-2017, 03:20 AM)
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Originally Posted by LeleSocho

I don't understand, are you paid by Huawei?
Also wasn't Italy the biggest European market for them (and the second worldwide)?

TL:DR, they don't pay me, but I do work for Huawei technically, no doubt about that.

I work for and within Huawei, not someone else. I sell phones in retail and promote the brand and maintain it at various levels at retail level. I'm the base pyramid guy, but I have the coolest job, which is selling our phones. The way things work in Portugal right now with the economic crisis though, means that I'm contracted by a middle man company. Huawei pays them for HR services and they pay us, the brand promotors/sellers.

Everything I do, report and everyone I talk and work with works at Huawei Portugal and Huawei Europe. I have no contact with the middle man except payments.

So as I said yes I work for them. I was kinda reluctant about revealing this but I'd rather people know because I wanna help out and I'd rather people on the thread know rather than thinking I'm a lunatic that posts dozens of posts all about the same brand just because I'm a fanboy xD so you can all know where my posts come from and what my opinions are based on.


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In Portugal we're outdoing all other big or small europeans markets by far this year. By far. IT is second in Europe behind us. UK is going very, veryyy strong as well, which is important.


Edit: We're in a curious position right now as a brand globally (China excluded), just inches away from Samsung and Apple, yet at the same time so far away from reaching them. Kinda paradoxal, but true regardless.
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CronoShot
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(01-12-2017, 03:34 AM)
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Originally Posted by -Pyromaniac-

LG is about to release the ideal smartphone apparently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wr-N5cZBcl0

If you look on the bottom in tiny letters it says "BOOT LOOPS"
Jeffrey
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(01-12-2017, 04:02 AM)

Originally Posted by -bakalhau-


Edit: oh I see it comes included, good then. When you mean import it, you import it from like Amazon UK or something?

2nd edit: if anyone got any question about Mate 9 I can try and help, been using one for 2 months now.

Yeah there is zero listing of the mate 9 supercharger anywhere on US resellers of mate 9 (bnh, newegg, amazon, bestbuy).


Is there anyway to get the lockscreen music playback notification controls for 3rd party apps, like pocketcast or amazon music?

Google music works but i've not successfully gotten music controls to appear for other apps.

Is there anyway to double tap the screen to wake like many other android skins?
The Faceless Master
(01-12-2017, 04:15 AM)
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Originally Posted by CronoShot

Originally Posted by -Pyromaniac-

LG is about to release the ideal smartphone apparently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wr-N5cZBcl0

If you look on the bottom in tiny letters it says "BOOT LOOPS"

wow
Rewrite
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(01-12-2017, 05:38 AM)
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Couldn't resist. Ordered a Moto Z Play.
Jeffrey
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(01-12-2017, 06:37 AM)
Seems like s8 might be keeping headphone jack?

No courage. https://www.sammobile.com/2017/01/12...nd-usb-c-port/
madmook
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(01-12-2017, 06:46 AM)
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Originally Posted by LostMyNarbles

Also worth noting that if you have access to a student email you can get a 10% discount code that should drop it to $360, but for some reason (Not sure if somebody else can replicate) it is dropped to $323 in my cart after adding the student discount.

Damn, I would buy at that price, but it appears there's no student discount in the US. Wanna get a cheap (relatively speaking) Android I could dabble around with (currently an iPhone user).
Toki767
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(01-12-2017, 06:47 AM)
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Originally Posted by Jeffrey

Seems like s8 might be keeping headphone jack?

No courage. https://www.sammobile.com/2017/01/12...nd-usb-c-port/

Power button on the left? Gross.
Unknown Soldier
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(01-12-2017, 07:54 AM)
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Originally Posted by Jeffrey

Seems like s8 might be keeping headphone jack?

No courage. https://www.sammobile.com/2017/01/12...nd-usb-c-port/

Only Apple has true courage.
Avixph
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(01-12-2017, 07:54 AM)
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Originally Posted by Jeffrey

Seems like s8 might be keeping headphone jack?

No courage. https://www.sammobile.com/2017/01/12...nd-usb-c-port/

Why is the USB-C port in the corner? Where's the heart rate monitor?
reKon
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(01-12-2017, 07:58 AM)

Originally Posted by Avixph

Why is the USB-C port in the corner? Where's the heart rate monitor?

different type of courage
Unknown Soldier
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(01-12-2017, 08:00 AM)
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Originally Posted by Bboy AJ

I'm kind of impressed the year old OS is so high. I thought everyone would still be on Lollipop.

On Android, most users "upgrade" their OS when they buy a new phone. Look at the way Android version marketshare breaks down, each major revision going back about 3 years has around 20-25% share. From this, we can surmise that on average 20-25% of Android phone owners replace their phone every year. Those people who bought a phone in 2016 currently have MM. People will be buying phones with Nougat in force during 2017, so by January of 2018 we should expect Nougat to be at 20-25% share. Past 3 years or so, you're either holding onto your phone until they pry it from your cold, dead hands (the tiny but persistent shares of older Android versions) or you have upgraded. This creates the distinctive fragmentation pattern of tiny share of the newest version, then around 20-25% of the previous 3 versions, and then a remaining 20-25% of users on older versions.
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Avixph
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(01-12-2017, 08:04 AM)
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Originally Posted by reKon

different type of courage

Also power button and volume rocker on the same side? That is a terrible idea.
LostMyNarbles
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(01-12-2017, 08:16 AM)
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Originally Posted by madmook

Damn, I would buy at that price, but it appears there's no student discount in the US. Wanna get a cheap (relatively speaking) Android I could dabble around with (currently an iPhone user).

I'm in the US and they do have a student discount, but you have to go through UNiDAYS to get a code.
EvetS
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(01-12-2017, 08:40 AM)
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LOL

HTC U Ultra... only 3000mah for 5.7"

Reminds of the Wii U.
Unknown Soldier
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(01-12-2017, 09:10 AM)
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HTC is well-known for hating battery life.
EvetS
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(01-12-2017, 09:32 AM)
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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier

HTC is well-known for hating battery life.

More like hating sales numbers, but what do we know.
TTOOLL
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(01-12-2017, 11:05 AM)
Samsung started rolling out Nougat for the S7, beta users getting it first. It's 7.0 not 7.1.

Btw, what are the differences between them?
-Pyromaniac-
(01-12-2017, 11:58 AM)
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Originally Posted by Jeffrey

Seems like s8 might be keeping headphone jack?

No courage. https://www.sammobile.com/2017/01/12...nd-usb-c-port/

I saw this and there are so many little wut things about it lol

I don't even get these HTC phones. What's the point of them? Just release the HTC 11 and that's it.
Junior Mint
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(01-12-2017, 12:04 PM)
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The smaller HTC uses a Helio P10? And has a 2500 mah battery? Why? Also strange that it only supports USB 2.0...

Smh
The Faceless Master
(01-12-2017, 12:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by Jeffrey

Seems like s8 might be keeping headphone jack?

No courage. https://www.sammobile.com/2017/01/12...nd-usb-c-port/

power button, charging port, headphone jack port ... all WTF @ placement
brotkasten
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(01-12-2017, 12:38 PM)

Originally Posted by TTOOLL

Samsung started rolling out Nougat for the S7, beta users getting it first. It's 7.0 not 7.1.

Btw, what are the differences between them?

After the Beta they confirmed it to be 7.1.1. If they really ship 7.0 first, then it's really embarrassing.
Bboy AJ
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(01-12-2017, 01:03 PM)
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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier

On Android, most users "upgrade" their OS when they buy a new phone. Look at the way Android version marketshare breaks down, each major revision going back about 3 years has around 20-25% share. From this, we can surmise that on average 20-25% of Android phone owners replace their phone every year. Those people who bought a phone in 2016 currently have MM. People will be buying phones with Nougat in force during 2017, so by January of 2018 we should expect Nougat to be at 20-25% share. Past 3 years or so, you're either holding onto your phone until they pry it from your cold, dead hands (the tiny but persistent shares of older Android versions) or you have upgraded. This creates the distinctive fragmentation pattern of tiny share of the newest version, then around 20-25% of the previous 3 versions, and then a remaining 20-25% of users on older versions.

That actually makes sense.
Blackhead
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(01-12-2017, 01:11 PM)

Originally Posted by Jeffrey

Seems like s8 might be keeping headphone jack?

No courage. https://www.sammobile.com/2017/01/12...nd-usb-c-port/

ditch the headphone jack, put 2 usbc ports (one top, one bottom) would be true #courage
tzare
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(01-12-2017, 01:19 PM)
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Originally Posted by Jazzy Network

Honor 8 coming tomorrow. Can't wait. Hope EMUI 4.1 isn't as bad as I think it is. Even if it is though, 5.0 should be just around the corner.

Also I played around with the Mate 9 at Best Buy today. Fucking beautiful phone. It's just too damn big for my liking. The software was really nice. EMUI definitely has fixed a lot of 4.1 issues.

android 7.1 guidelines for oems seems to adress some issues, especially for chinese manufacturers, at least lock screen and notification behaviour, so if honor 8 and future huawei smartphones using android reach 7.1 or further the worst of emui may be gone forever

http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/01...res-mandatory/
-bakalhau-
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(01-12-2017, 02:05 PM)
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Originally Posted by Jeffrey

Yeah there is zero listing of the mate 9 supercharger anywhere on US resellers of mate 9 (bnh, newegg, amazon, bestbuy).


Is there anyway to get the lockscreen music playback notification controls for 3rd party apps, like pocketcast or amazon music?

Google music works but i've not successfully gotten music controls to appear for other apps.

Is there anyway to double tap the screen to wake like many other android skins?


I don't think you can get the notifications controls for the default lockscreen, I've looked into it myself when I first got the Mate 9 and never found a solution that didn't require either root or installing another lockscreen app.

As for the double tap to wake, you can't either. Only by rooting, once again.
CriterionDog
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(01-12-2017, 02:16 PM)
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Replacing my old Nexus 5 battery tomorrow. I have had my Nexus 5 just sitting in my backpack forever (battery was dying within hours and gradually got worse, so I got a new phone back then).

I ordered a battery (not OEM unfortunately) and the prying tools. The replacement looks rather easy compared to other phones.

I'm not planning on using this as a daily driver, just as a backup if something happens and I felt like messing with Android again (been using an iPhone for about 2 years now).

notifications and widgets are so much better on android it's not even funny

I've never rooted any phone but I'm interested in getting Nougat on there.

Any ideas? I just plan on playing with this for a bit. Any recommendations?

I unfortunately forgot the pattern I had set and when my phone was last dying, it would never bring up the "forgot password?" to send me an email to unlock my phone. Anyone know how to go about that? If not I don't mind formatting it, but I'm just curious!
DrFunk
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(01-12-2017, 02:17 PM)
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Looks like the U Ultra is the flagship and no HTC 11 is coming
-Pyromaniac-
(01-12-2017, 02:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by DrFunk

Looks like the U Ultra is the flagship and no HTC 11 is coming

nah it's definitely coming, probably going to announce it later in the year. I'd be shocked if a phone running an 821 is their flagship for the year.

Also I just realized that HTC is officially obsolete considering Huawei is basically a better more successful version of them. Even if the HTC 11 is good the P10 series of phones is probably better.
Jazzy Network
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(01-12-2017, 02:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by DrFunk

Looks like the U Ultra is the flagship and no HTC 11 is coming

So they released a phone this year with last year's CPU as it's flagship? Joke?
DrFunk
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(01-12-2017, 03:17 PM)
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eh I dunno:

David Ruddock ‏@RDR0b11 9m9 minutes ago

By the way, HTC strongly implied when presenting U Ultra that this phone means there will be no real HTC 11. U is the flagship now.

HTC was hesitant to commit to this on record, but the message seemed clear: U is where our investment is now. U Ultra is the flagship.

Given no carrier deals in the US for these phones, HTC bowing out of the US market seems like an eventuality at this point.

of course, things might change
reKon
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(01-12-2017, 04:02 PM)

Originally Posted by DrFunk

eh I dunno:







of course, things might change

Lol.

ZTE should just deliver the final blow and shit all over HTC. What a joke.
Volotaire
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(01-12-2017, 04:15 PM)
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Originally Posted by DrFunk

eh I dunno:







of course, things might change

Uh?
DrFunk
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(01-12-2017, 04:46 PM)
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David Ruddock ‏@RDR0b11 2m2 minutes ago

Btw, on a more positive note: HTC U Ultra is the first non-Pixel phone announced with Google Assistant.

lol, HTC couldn't be bothered to mention this?
Jeffrey
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(01-12-2017, 04:56 PM)
mate 9 battery life is amazing.


Been streaming awesome games done quick all morning at work. still at about 75% at lunch time.
RuGalz
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(01-12-2017, 04:57 PM)

Originally Posted by tzare

android 7.1 guidelines for oems seems to adress some issues, especially for chinese manufacturers, at least lock screen and notification behaviour, so if honor 8 and future huawei smartphones using android reach 7.1 or further the worst of emui may be gone forever

http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/01...res-mandatory/

Probably just means my honor 8 won't ever see 7.1. LOL
Jeffrey
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(01-12-2017, 05:03 PM)
i was like, HTC doesn't seem soo bad... oh wait 821?

3000 mah with 1440p 5.7"?

And i thought the OP3's battery was bad.
Jazzy Network
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(01-12-2017, 05:04 PM)
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Originally Posted by Jeffrey

mate 9 battery life is amazing.


Been streaming awesome games done quick all morning at work. still at about 75% at lunch time.

You liking EMUI 5.0? I was only able to play with it for about 5 minutes so I don't have a big history of it.
Jeffrey
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(01-12-2017, 05:10 PM)

Originally Posted by Jazzy Network

You liking EMUI 5.0? I was only able to play with it for about 5 minutes so I don't have a big history of it.

It's ok. More stockish in functionality than before, but still a lot of 'chinese' bits, like no music playback on lockscreen (weirdly google music and their stock app works?), no double tap to wake, always bugging you about 'THIS APP USES BATTERY'. Have to basically manually tell it that its good for every app.


notifications are basically a themed out stock 7.0 notifications though instead of the weird split thing in 4.

App drawer is vertical scroll again.


Besides that though, I slapped Nova launcher on it, and its pretty much been the same experience as my OP3.
-bakalhau-
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(01-12-2017, 05:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by Jeffrey

It's ok. More stockish in functionality than before, but still a lot of 'chinese' bits, like no music playback on lockscreen (weirdly google music and their stock app works?)

Google guidelines for Android probably make it so Huawei has to support their music player appearing on the lockscreen.

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