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View Poll Results: Which do you prefer?
Terminator
143 25.44%
Thor 2: The Dark World
162 28.83%
Terminator 2
257 45.73%
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HStallion
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(03-20-2017, 09:28 PM)
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Originally Posted by BumRush

Haha yup, it's definitely cheesy as hell, but goddammit, it tugs at those heartstrings

Nothing wrong with being cheesy especially when the cheese like the final thumbs up was pretty well earned by everything that came before it.
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(03-20-2017, 09:29 PM)
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That police and club shootout are better than any of the action scenes in T2.
DontBeThatGuy
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(03-20-2017, 09:30 PM)
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Terminator 2 is still very impressive (and nostalgia runs deep with that one). It's just got shit that irks me.
Nielm
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(03-20-2017, 09:30 PM)
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I really liked the neo-noir feel of Terminator 1, and its synth soundtrack.

However, overall, I felt Terminator 2 was better emotionally. and more 'epic', I preferred the second one.
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Stallion Dan
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(03-20-2017, 09:30 PM)
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T1.

Got that 80s feel.
liquidtmd
(03-20-2017, 09:31 PM)
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The pacing of 1 is relentless. I rewatched it not long back and there is pretty much zero bloat in terms of telling a story. Absolutely none. No wasted scenes and no retelling the audience things they've already established.

That's the remarkable thing and why I consider Aliens and T1 to be his highlights. His eye for screenplay efficiency and translating that into his final cut for those two films was incredible, never bettered within his career.
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(03-20-2017, 09:31 PM)
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Slightly off topic but I wanted to get other people's takes on this opinion since I had a debate about this a long time back. Despite Terminator 2 generally being viewed as the movie with the "happy ending", I actually think Terminator 2 has a bleaker or more scary ending than Terminator 1 does. At the end of Terminator 1, Sarah is pregnant and she knows the incoming storm that is the bleak future of Skynet. But that's the thing, at the end of Terminator 1 Sarah knows what is coming and knows how to prepare for it.

At the end of Terminator 2, Sarah and John have absolutely no idea what to do with the future now. They have no idea whether or not the actually saved the future and in my opinion they're faced with a much scarier and more personal problem. Do they finally relax and enjoy life or do they continue preparing for the apocalypse? If they relax and assume the future is saved, and then Judgement Day still happens, they're fucked because they stopped preparing. If they keep preparing for Judgement Day and it never happens, they've potentially wasted their lives for nothing. To me, that's a much scarier reality to face especially with the looming shadow of one awful potential future still there.

Originally Posted by Bobby Roberts

This part of Terminator 2 is cheesy as hell, but god damnit it works so well. I couldn't think of a better sendoff for the Terminator in that movie
Rhomega Beta
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(03-20-2017, 09:32 PM)
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Terminator 2. It's more epic, and the T-1000's abilities make it a more interesting villain.
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I'm really surprised to see how many people are wrong and think that T1 is the superior Terminator film.
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(03-20-2017, 09:33 PM)
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Hard to compare, but probably Terminator 2.
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(03-20-2017, 09:34 PM)

Originally Posted by Sephzilla

Slightly off topic but I wanted to get other people's takes on this opinion since I had a debate about this a long time back. Despite Terminator 2 generally being viewed as the movie with the "happy ending", I actually think Terminator 2 has a bleaker or more scary ending than Terminator 1 does. At the end of Terminator 1, Sarah is pregnant and she knows the incoming storm that is the bleak future of Skynet. But that's the thing, at the end of Terminator 1 Sarah knows what is coming and knows how to prepare for it.

At the end of Terminator 2, Sarah and John have absolutely no idea what to do with the future now. They have no idea whether or not the actually saved the future and in my opinion they're faced with a much scarier and more personal problem. Do they finally relax and enjoy life or do they continue preparing for the apocalypse? If they relax and assume the future is saved, and then Judgement Day still happens, they're fucked because they stopped preparing. If they keep preparing for Judgement Day and it never happens, they've potentially wasted their lives for nothing. To me, that's a much scarier reality to face especially with the looming shadow of one awful potential future still there.



This part of Terminator 2 is cheesy as hell, but god damnit it works so well. I couldn't think of a better sendoff for the Terminator in that movie

I was thinking about this the first time I saw Terminator 3. John had no reason to be the way that he was since it was entirely possible for him to live a normal life since they thought they had won, or at least didn't know. The ambiguous nature of T2's ending led him to lead a crazy life. It turned out that he was right, but he was never able to actualy live.
Maxim726X
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(03-20-2017, 09:34 PM)
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Originally Posted by Jarmel

That police and club shootout are better than any of the action scenes in T2.

Truth.

T1 is love, T1 is life.
Marvie_3
(03-20-2017, 09:35 PM)
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Love both of them but Terminator 1 is way better.
Gai Murakumo
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(03-20-2017, 09:35 PM)
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To me it is like comparing Alien to Aliens. Both are great in their own respective ways. But at the end of the day I would choose Terminator 2.
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(03-20-2017, 09:35 PM)
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I prefer to watch Terminator 2. Its more fun.

But the first one really is the better movie. Its tighter. Less fluff. The story was pretty original. And the bad guy is more threatening cuz the good guys don't have a terminator on their team. The T-1000 was a very menacing foe but it never really feels like he is truly threatening until the end at the factory.
pokeystaples
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(03-20-2017, 09:36 PM)
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T2. Special effects blew my tiny mind at the time and I have spent an inordinate time trying to get Sarah Connor/Angela Bassett arms.
Sectorseven
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(03-20-2017, 09:36 PM)
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Originally Posted by Aselith

It was a low budget movie I believe and T2 got to blow it out due to its success. Edit yeah per Wikipedia may not be accurate but it was 6 mill vs 100 mill budget. Biiiiiiggg difference.

T2 for me.

It's not even about the budget. Everything about it just felt like it was from a time gone by, even when it was relatively new, whereas 2 felt much more modern. Even by today's standards 2 could pass as contemporary film, for the most part. Other films like Alien - Aliens or Back to the Future - Back to the Future 2 or even Godfather 2 - Godfather 3 felt much more consistent in their look.

That's not to say it was a bad film - quite the contrary, it was always just a little jarring.
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(03-20-2017, 09:36 PM)
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T2 directors cut > T1

Alien > Alien 3 > Alien Resurrection > Alien vs Predator > Alien vs Predator 2 > Prometheus > Alien 2.
Bold One
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(03-20-2017, 09:37 PM)
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Terminator 2 still holds up

T1 not so much, but it deserves a lot of respect for jump-starting the genre
Fancy Clown
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(03-20-2017, 09:37 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sephzilla

Slightly off topic but I wanted to get other people's takes on this opinion since I had a debate about this a long time back. Despite Terminator 2 generally being viewed as the movie with the "happy ending", I actually think Terminator 2 has a bleaker or more scary ending than Terminator 1 does. At the end of Terminator 1, Sarah is pregnant and she knows the incoming storm that is the bleak future of Skynet. But that's the thing, at the end of Terminator 1 Sarah knows what is coming and knows how to prepare for it.

At the end of Terminator 2, Sarah and John have absolutely no idea what to do with the future now. They have no idea whether or not the actually saved the future and in my opinion they're faced with a much scarier and more personal problem. Do they finally relax and enjoy life or do they continue preparing for the apocalypse? If they relax and assume the future is saved, and then Judgement Day still happens, they're fucked because they stopped preparing. If they keep preparing for Judgement Day and it never happens, they've potentially wasted their lives for nothing. To me, that's a much scarier reality to face especially with the looming shadow of one awful potential future still there.

T2, while nicely ambiguous, is still mostly optimistic. Sarah expresses her hope, because if a literal inhuman killing machine can learn to value human life, then its no stretch that humans can do the same and avert disaster before it's too late.
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(03-20-2017, 09:37 PM)
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Originally Posted by FairyD

Alien > Alien 3 > Alien Resurrection > Alien vs Predator > Alien vs Predator 2 > Prometheus > Alien 2.

Space A Cobra
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(03-20-2017, 09:38 PM)
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Terminator

Despite some shoddy stop-motion compositing at the end, I find it to be a super solid movie that gets a little better each year while T2 gets a little worse.
T8SC
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(03-20-2017, 09:39 PM)
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Too hard to choose. Both different genres and one was done on a shoestring budget.
btrboyev
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(03-20-2017, 09:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by Bold One

Terminator 2 still holds up

T1 not so much, but it deserves a lot of respect for jump-starting the genre

Neither hold up.

T2 was super offensive to me when I was a 7th grader in 1991. It seemed so toned down compared to the first movie. Not in action, but in making it more child/family friendly. And the first movie wasn't even that good.
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(03-20-2017, 09:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by FairyD


Alien > Alien 3 > Alien Resurrection > Alien vs Predator > Alien vs Predator 2 > Prometheus > Alien 2.

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(03-20-2017, 09:40 PM)
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The Terminator is obviously the best terminator.

There are lots of cool scenes in T2. It has way better action. T-1000 was cool at the time but looking back its pretty cheesy. It also made it so they had to come up with a new "better" terminator every movie.
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(03-20-2017, 09:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by Gai Murakumo

To me it is like comparing Alien to Aliens. Both are great in their own respective ways. But at the end of the day I would choose Terminator 2.

That's how I feel about it, they're different movies doing different things, both very well. If they were both on different channels at the same time I'd probably pick T2 more often.
Sephzilla
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(03-20-2017, 09:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by btrboyev

Neither hold up.

T2 was super offensive to me when I was a 7th grader in 1991. It seemed so toned down compared to the first movie. Not in action, but in making it more child/family friendly. And the first movie wasn't even that good.



Terminator 2 was not a family friendly movie
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(03-20-2017, 09:41 PM)
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At the end of the day, cheese or not, T2 still gets to juggle more and heavier concepts and situations that arrive from the events of T1 and the science fiction elemets. Of course whether it is as successful at each of those as the relatively more one- note T1 is up to argument, and very much so.

Had T2 been focusing on exploring its best story element in depth and in a more focused matter, then it would have more about reversing the premise of the first film to Sarah Connor hunting down people for the crime they are yet to commit and less about setting the stage for great car chases. Not that one aim is more valid than the other. T2 is a wonderful and very innovative action film.
iPaul93
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(03-20-2017, 09:41 PM)
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T2 and it's not even close.
Manny Calavera
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(03-20-2017, 09:42 PM)
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I'm not usually a fan of action movies but in this case I prefer Terminator 2 and consider it as one of the best films in the genre. It has intense pace, threatening villain and the visuals still hold up perfectly.

Haven't seen them for a while but my ratings would be

Terminator 2 - 9
Terminator - 8

When it comes to Alien vs Aliens I choose Alien without a question.
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(03-20-2017, 09:43 PM)

Originally Posted by Bobby Roberts

I prefer Terminator to Terminator 2

I admire it's... purity

While 2 was excellent, and one of the best sequels ever made, Terminator was so ahead of its time, and pure.
SillyEskimo
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(03-20-2017, 09:44 PM)
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Younger me prefered T2 but older me prefers T1.
bounchfx
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(03-20-2017, 09:44 PM)
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T2 no contest for me. The first was neat but donno never did it for me. I should probably watch it again now since it's been like 15 years. T2 is the best action movie ever made though so it's got that going for it
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Originally Posted by Sephzilla



Terminator 2 was not a family friendly movie

90's familes weren't so wussy back then.
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(03-20-2017, 09:45 PM)
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Originally Posted by mxgt

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(03-20-2017, 09:46 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sephzilla



Terminator 2 was not a family friendly movie

It feels like a weird mix of a family movie with R rated violence. That's not necessarily a bad thing, either.
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(03-20-2017, 09:48 PM)
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What was the point of that scene in 2 where Arnold blows up a bunch of police cars with a minigun? It didn't cause the police to back down. In fact, it just ensured that they'd start using hostile force.
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Originally Posted by Fancy Clown

It feels like a weird mix of a family movie with R rated violence. That's not necessarily a bad thing, either.

Yeah, it definitely has some family friendly themes to it and it's definitely toned down from the first movie, but I still wouldn't put it anywhere close to a family friendly level at all.

Originally Posted by GurgleBot20

What was the point of that scene in 2 where Arnold blows up a bunch of police cars with a minigun? It didn't cause the police to back down. In fact, it just ensured that they'd start using hostile force.

It was to scare and delay the police from entering the building
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(03-20-2017, 09:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sephzilla



Terminator 2 was not a family friendly movie


It was more accessible then the original. The first film was an economical,lean relentless with a legitimate mean streak. It was a slasher film with a sci if coat of paint and preference to firearms instead of blunt or stab by weapons. The sequel has a couple of particularly violent sequences and lots of swearing but it is generally a much more accessible four quadrant film. Its much lighter tonally whereas the original was outright nihilistic.
itchyass86
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(03-20-2017, 09:54 PM)
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Been thinkin bout Terminator 2 a lot lately. Even been hummin the tune.

T2 is my favorite movie of all time. Right above Wall-E. Still watch it every couple of years and it still leaves me in the same contemplative mood every time.
Sato Koiji
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(03-20-2017, 09:55 PM)
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T2.

I now know why you cry...

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(03-20-2017, 09:56 PM)
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It's two different genres, but I prefer the first one a decent amount, but love both.
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Originally Posted by itchyass86

Been thinkin bout Terminator 2 a lot lately. Even been hummin the tune.

T2 is my favorite movie of all time. Right above Wall-E. Still watch it every couple of years and it still leaves me in the same contemplative mood every time.

You mean the same tune from Terminator 1?
Cormano
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(03-20-2017, 10:28 PM)
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T1, i love both though.
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T1, so much so I don't even bother with the John Connor child sequel (despite Hamilton being a BAMF). It's just boring compared to the Reese / Sarah show.

Originally Posted by FloatOn

T1 > T2
Alien > Aliens
these films just work better as horror. not that their action iterations are bad it just somehow feels cheaper.

Right on right on!

Triple threat Godfather Part I > Part II or clearly Predator > Predator 2
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Both great, but the first one is the best. Better soundtrack, I prefer the setpieces and Arnie is better as a bad guy over cheesy sidekick.
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T1 is very crude in many parts. They are not even in the same ballpark. Terminator 2 is Cameronism from beginning to end, and it's glorious.
NOLA_Gaffer
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(03-20-2017, 10:32 PM)
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I enjoy the horror/slasher feel of "The Terminator" over the action movie feel of "Terminator 2".
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