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TestOfTide
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(01-12-2017, 01:14 AM)

Originally Posted by sugarhigh4242

that's a lousy policy. I thought democrats supported an unequivocal right to abortion if they supported anything.

When the fuck did democrats claim to be for ALL abortions?

Now you are just making shit up.
RPGCrazied
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(01-12-2017, 01:15 AM)
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This was one of the worst press conferences I have ever witnessed in my almost 40 years on this earth.

I still can't get over him saying CNN was fake news. That is absurd.
TestOfTide
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(01-12-2017, 01:15 AM)

Originally Posted by Herr Schwarz

Yep she did, and she lost. Like I said, sending a clown to a funeral.

But what does that have to do with you shitting on Hillary voters?

Hillary voters where the ones who recognized what the only sensible choice was.

Originally Posted by Spyder_Monkey

Late term abortion is an uncommon (most abortions are done in the first trimester), but still massively complicated political issue and can potentially be dangerous. There was an effort in congress that wanted to ban abortions after the 20th week while Clinton opposed that because there are cases where the pregnancy can harm the life of the mother. There's nothing vague about this at all and you clearly have no idea what you're talking about besides repeating the same anti-Clinton smear.

FYI, sugarhigh4242 has a history of posting disingenuous bullshit.

http://neogaf.site/forum/showpost...postcount=7978
http://neogaf.site/forum/showpost...postcount=7849
http://neogaf.site/forum/showpost...postcount=2850
http://neogaf.site/forum/showpost...&postcount=283
http://neogaf.site/forum/showpost...&postcount=274
http://neogaf.site/forum/showpost...&postcount=210
http://neogaf.site/forum/showpost...&postcount=169
http://neogaf.site/forum/showpost...&postcount=165
http://neogaf.site/forum/showpost...&postcount=160
http://neogaf.site/forum/showpost...2&postcount=57
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=226709309
http://neogaf.site/forum/showpost...&postcount=697
http://neogaf.site/forum/showpost...&postcount=743
http://neogaf.site/forum/showpost...&postcount=111
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whyamihere
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(01-12-2017, 01:16 AM)
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Originally Posted by Spyder_Monkey

Late term abortion is an uncommon (most abortions are done in the first trimester), but still massively complicated political issue and can potentially be dangerous. There was an effort in congress that wanted to ban abortions after the 20th week while Clinton opposed that because there are cases where the pregnancy can harm the life of the mother. There's nothing vague about this at all and you clearly have no idea what you're talking about besides repeating the same anti-Clinton smear.

I also don't believe that's ever been a policy for Democrats, either.
Chococat
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(01-12-2017, 01:20 AM)
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Why is anyone here talking about Clinton in a thread about Trump's press conference?
BoboBrazil
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(01-12-2017, 01:20 AM)
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Originally Posted by RPGCrazied

This was one of the worst press conferences I have ever witnessed in my almost 40 years on this earth.

I still can't get over him saying CNN was fake news. That is absurd.

Wont stop CNN from fondling his balls by having over half the guests on their shows be Trump supporters that like to shout over everyone else.
sugarhigh4242
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(01-12-2017, 01:20 AM)

Originally Posted by whyamihere

how is obama more left than hillary

- Clinton supported the Iraq war, Obama opposed it.
- in 2008, Obama's ran on opposition to the individual mandate in healthcare reform. Clinton's plan had it. (of course the final ACA has it, meh)
- Obama supported gay marriage before Clinton (2012 and 2013 respectively, meh)
- Clinton is generally more hawkish than Obama, having pushed for the Libya invasion against the preferences of Obama, having argued for more ground troops in the fight against ISIS

It's a matter of barely important degrees, but I can't think of an issue where Clinton is to the left of Obama.
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Spyder_Monkey
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(01-12-2017, 01:21 AM)
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Originally Posted by Chococat

Why is anyone here talking about Clinton in a thread about Trump's press conference?

It's always Clinton's fault. /s, obviously
Fox Mulder
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(01-12-2017, 01:21 AM)
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Originally Posted by RPGCrazied

This was one of the worst press conferences I have ever witnessed in my almost 40 years on this earth.

I still can't get over him saying CNN was fake news. That is absurd.

cnn will just bend over to appease him and he wins.
Herr Schwarz
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(01-12-2017, 01:21 AM)
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Originally Posted by TestOfTide

But what does that have to do with you shitting on Hillary voters?

Hillary voters where the ones who recognized what the only sensible choice was.

I'd be obliged to apologize if you could show me where I'm specifically shitting on Hillary voters.


Yes, Hillary was indeed a sensible choice for the moderate democrats, in their eyes.

Was Hillary a sensible candidate for an electoral body that right now were favouring populist candidates?

No, she wasn't. It's like Pokemon, you're sending a Charmander to fight a water-type. It's not a sensible COUNTER to the current political climate.

A really bad candidate.. Sensible, sure, but for these days? No fucking way.
whyamihere
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(01-12-2017, 01:23 AM)
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Originally Posted by sugarhigh4242

- Clinton supported the Iraq war, Obama opposed it.
- in 2008, Obama's ran on opposition to the individual mandate in healthcare reform. Clinton's plan had it. (of course the final ACA has it, meh)
- Obama supported gay marriage before Clinton (2012 and 2013 respectively, meh)
- Clinton is generally more hawkish than Obama, having pushed for the Libya invasion against the preferences of Obama, having argued for more ground troops in the fight against ISIS

It's a matter of barely important degrees, but I can't think of an issue where Clinton is to the left of Obama.

Hillary had a more progressive voting record than Obama in the Senate based on her vote record.

You can't think of an issue where Clinton was to the left of Obama? Try her actual votes.
rjinaz
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(01-12-2017, 01:25 AM)
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Originally Posted by BoboBrazil

Wont stop CNN from fondling his balls by having over half the guests on their shows be Trump supporters that like to shout over everyone else.

Yep if they had the balls they would black list all the Trump people until Trump apologizes.
They won't though. Trump's mouthpieces will go on spouting his spew on their "fake" news site.
sugarhigh4242
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(01-12-2017, 01:28 AM)

Originally Posted by whyamihere

Hillary had a more progressive voting record than Obama in the Senate based on her vote record.

You can't think of an issue where Clinton was to the left of Obama? Try her actual votes.

ok, what important progressive vote did clinton support and obama oppose? I'm not saying it doesn't exist, i just can't think of one.
Impeccable
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(01-12-2017, 01:29 AM)
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... wait, when did this turn into a Hillary thing?
rjinaz
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(01-12-2017, 01:29 AM)
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Originally Posted by whyamihere

Let's call you CVS, because YOUR RECEIPTS

Why does he have to be a BoBer? Why are the most ardent Trump supporters BoBers? Dammit I voted for Bernie. I wish he was president. Stop embarrassing sane Bernie supporters like me!
whyamihere
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(01-12-2017, 01:31 AM)
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Originally Posted by rjinaz

Why does he have to be a BoBer? Why are the most ardent Trump supporters BoBers? Dammit I voted for Bernie. I wish he was president. Stop embarrassing sane Bernie supporters like me!

I really hope I wouldn't have been this bad if Obama didn't get the nomination in 08. I think about that a lot.
rjinaz
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(01-12-2017, 01:37 AM)
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Originally Posted by whyamihere

I really hope I wouldn't have been this bad if Obama didn't get the nomination in 08. I think about that a lot.

That fact that you even think about that tells me you'd be a reasonable former supporter like myself.
TestOfTide
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(01-12-2017, 01:39 AM)

Originally Posted by whyamihere

Let's call you CVS, because YOUR RECEIPTS

Or maybe a tag that says "The North Remembers and so does your Post History"
BoboBrazil
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(01-12-2017, 01:40 AM)
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Originally Posted by rjinaz

Yep if they had the balls they would black list all the Trump people until Trump apologizes.
They won't though. Trump's mouthpieces will go on spouting his spew on their "fake" news site.

Yep, and this after continually being called fake and horrible by Trump. I see today they even have a new Republican shithead Rick Santorum on, who of course was yelling over everyone else. No backbone at all.
Strike
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(01-12-2017, 01:42 AM)
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Originally Posted by Link

If the examples on the last page are what represents our far left, it's no wonder the Dems got slaughtered. Holy hell.

Shit is embarrassing. If you really cared about progressive causes AT ALL you would've voted for the one choice in a two party system after the primaries were over. There was no mythical perfect candidate. The other side realized this and now they're getting everything they wanted. Instead people got petty by abstaining or putting up protest votes assuring the very thing they were supposed to be trying to prevent in the first place. At this rate you might as well just write off the next eight years right now.
Htown
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(01-12-2017, 01:46 AM)
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y'all sittin here letting sugarhigh play you like that?

now he's got the thread talking about Jill Stein, instead of what a colossal fuck-up President-Elect Trump again showed himself to be with this press conference.
Spyder_Monkey
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(01-12-2017, 01:47 AM)
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Originally Posted by Htown

y'all sittin here letting sugarhigh play you like that?

now he's got the thread talking about Jill Stein, instead of what a colossal fuck-up President-Elect Trump again showed himself to be with this press conference.

Gee maybe the powers that be should do something about him for derailing discussion and posting bullshit.

Donald Trump has doomed us all though and only I will get the last, sad laugh.
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(01-12-2017, 01:49 AM)
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Originally Posted by sugarhigh4242

ok, what important progressive vote did clinton support and obama oppose? I'm not saying it doesn't exist, i just can't think of one.

I'll do you one better. Perhaps you should get out of your socialist media bubble on occasion.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...voting-history
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Prost
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(01-12-2017, 01:49 AM)
lol at trying to bring up Hillary and the election again. JFC, get over it already.
rjinaz
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(01-12-2017, 01:49 AM)
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Originally Posted by Htown

y'all sittin here letting sugarhigh play you like that?

now he's got the thread talking about Jill Stein, instead of what a colossal fuck-up President-Elect Trump again showed himself to be with this press conference.

That's what they do. They can't actually argue something in favor for Trump because the man has no redeeming qualities nor actions really outside of making some money. So they have no choice but to turn the discussion into something else.
TestOfTide
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(01-12-2017, 01:53 AM)

Originally Posted by Htown

y'all sittin here letting sugarhigh play you like that?

now he's got the thread talking about Jill Stein, instead of what a colossal fuck-up President-Elect Trump again showed himself to be with this press conference.

I brought the receipts so people would know not to take him seriously.
whyamihere
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(01-12-2017, 02:01 AM)
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Originally Posted by TestOfTide

I brought the receipts so people would know not to take him seriously.

You

SmackAttack
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(01-12-2017, 02:05 AM)
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My dad, a Trump supporter, of course loved it. He said he did a good job and loved how he "put CNN in their place" and isn't taking anything from anyone. Said he sounded tough. Then he went on about how "only California and New York" voted against him because they have the most liberals, gays, and sins. I know this because my mom told me when he left (he doesn't live with us). I've been in the other room watching AGDQ.

I can't take it anymore.
Schattenjäger
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(01-12-2017, 02:06 AM)

Originally Posted by A Fish Aficionado

Most candidates know vaccines are safe. Stein and Trump are both antivax.

Trump is not anti-vax

He supports more spread out vaccinations but that's his personal opinion - won't impact policy
MaKTaiL
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(01-12-2017, 02:09 AM)
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God, I feel bad for the sign language translators that will have to translate his speeches once he takes office.
nephilimdj
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(01-12-2017, 02:09 AM)
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Originally Posted by RPGCrazied

This was one of the worst press conferences I have ever witnessed in my almost 40 years on this earth.

I still can't get over him saying CNN was fake news. That is absurd.

CNN Claims Russia hacked DNC, then Russia was then the one who showed that CNN gave Hillarys team the debate questions and showed how currupt there company is.
Ofcourse would do anything to hurt Trump including fake news.

http://nypost.com/2016/10/31/cnn-dro...ns-to-clinton/

I dunno why people think CNN isn't taking this personal, nothing professional here.
StrategyFan
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(01-12-2017, 02:09 AM)

Originally Posted by MaKTaiL

God, I feel bad for the sign language translators that will have to translate his speeches once he takes office.

how do you refer to yourself in 3rd person in sign language?
Nafai1123
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(01-12-2017, 02:10 AM)
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Originally Posted by Schattenjäger

Trump is not anti-vax

He supports more spread out vaccinations but that's his personal opinion - won't impact policy

Then why did he appoint a anti-vaxxer to chair commission on vaccine safety and integrity?

http://time.com/4630675/robert-f-ken...rump-vaccines/
TestOfTide
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(01-12-2017, 02:16 AM)

Originally Posted by nephilimdj

CNN Claims Russia hacked DNC, then Russia was then the one who showed that CNN gave Hillarys team the debate questions and showed how currupt there company is.
Ofcourse would do anything to hurt Trump including fake news.

http://nypost.com/2016/10/31/cnn-dro...ns-to-clinton/

I dunno why people think CNN isn't taking this personal, nothing professional here.

I like how you are phrasing it as "CNN gave Hillary's team debate questions" when it was one person employed by CNN who was then fired when it came out she gave those TWO easily predictable questions.
Mr. Blonde
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(01-12-2017, 02:17 AM)
Enjoyed this roughly as much as obamas farewell, which is to say not much..

Originally Posted by RPGCrazied

This was one of the worst press conferences I have ever witnessed in my almost 40 years on this earth.

I still can't get over him saying CNN was fake news. That is absurd.

You literally can't even, right?
Delicious Waffles
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(01-12-2017, 02:18 AM)
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I saw highlghts about it on the news. These next four years are going to be something.
BoboBrazil
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(01-12-2017, 02:20 AM)
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Originally Posted by TestOfTide

I like how you are phrasing it as "CNN gave Hillary's team debate questions" when it was one person employed by CNN who was then fired when it came out she gave those TWO easily predictable questions.

Why does Trump ignore the fact that Megyn Kelly confirmed Fox News gave Trump questions before a debate on their channel? 🤔
Bishop89
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(01-12-2017, 02:22 AM)
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Aren't able to watch it just yet.

Any highlights?
ManDudeChild
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(01-12-2017, 02:26 AM)

Originally Posted by SmackAttack

My dad, a Trump supporter, of course loved it. He said he did a good job and loved how he "put CNN in their place" and isn't taking anything from anyone. Said he sounded tough. Then he went on about how "only California and New York" voted against him because they have the most liberals, gays, and sins. I know this because my mom told me when he left (he doesn't live with us). I've been in the other room watching AGDQ.

I can't take it anymore.

Schattenjäger
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(01-12-2017, 03:09 AM)

Originally Posted by Nafai1123

Then why did he appoint a anti-vaxxer to chair commission on vaccine safety and integrity?

http://time.com/4630675/robert-f-ken...rump-vaccines/

Taken directly from your link

His new responsibilities, Kennedy said, included making sure “we have scientific integrity in the vaccine process for efficacy and safety effects.” He also stressed that “everybody ought to be able to be assured that the vaccines we have [are] as safe as they can possibly be.” Finally, he added that Trump “is very pro-vaccine, as am I.”
Ac30
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(01-12-2017, 03:18 AM)

Originally Posted by Mr. Blonde

Enjoyed this roughly as much as obamas farewell, which is to say not much..



You literally can't even, right?

Out of curiosity, what did you not enjoy about Obama's farewell? I thought it was rather excellent myself. Must admit I teared up at the Michelle part.
Rebel Leader
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(01-12-2017, 03:19 AM)
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Originally Posted by Dubbedinenglish

From PoliGAF:



https://twitter.com/mikeyface/status/819334956027695104


Blank pages, feign surprise everyone!!

I'm not surprised
animlboogy
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(01-12-2017, 03:20 AM)
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Originally Posted by TestOfTide

But what does that have to do with you shitting on Hillary voters?

Hillary voters where the ones who recognized what the only sensible choice was.



FYI, sugarhigh4242 has a history of posting disingenuous bullshit.

http://neogaf.site/forum/showpost...postcount=7978
http://neogaf.site/forum/showpost...postcount=7849
http://neogaf.site/forum/showpost...postcount=2850
http://neogaf.site/forum/showpost...&postcount=283
http://neogaf.site/forum/showpost...&postcount=280
http://neogaf.site/forum/showpost...&postcount=274
http://neogaf.site/forum/showpost...&postcount=210
http://neogaf.site/forum/showpost...&postcount=169
http://neogaf.site/forum/showpost...&postcount=165
http://neogaf.site/forum/showpost...&postcount=160
http://neogaf.site/forum/showpost...2&postcount=57
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=226709309
http://neogaf.site/forum/showpost...&postcount=697
http://neogaf.site/forum/showpost...&postcount=743
http://neogaf.site/forum/showpost...&postcount=111

I find this guy obnoxious in this thread right now BUT...

Pointing out that Kurt Eichenwald is kind of a nutcase? Noting that Wikileaks shouldn't be trusted by default but they haven't released any false leaks yet? Clarifying that the Snowden leaks were vetted by journalists and not released through Wikileaks?

This is a weird collection of posts to make your point with. And even weirder to have people quoting and cheering you on.
A.J.
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(01-12-2017, 03:26 AM)
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Originally Posted by Dubbedinenglish

From PoliGAF:



https://twitter.com/mikeyface/status/819334956027695104


Blank pages, feign surprise everyone!!

I missed the conference. What were these supposed to be anyway?
Nafai1123
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(01-12-2017, 03:29 AM)
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Originally Posted by Schattenjäger

Taken directly from your link

His new responsibilities, Kennedy said, included making sure “we have scientific integrity in the vaccine process for efficacy and safety effects.” He also stressed that “everybody ought to be able to be assured that the vaccines we have [are] as safe as they can possibly be.” Finally, he added that Trump “is very pro-vaccine, as am I.”

So your source is...themselves? Keep reading.

Later in the afternoon, a Trump spokesperson said in a statement that the president-elect “is exploring the possibility of forming a committee on Autism, which affects so many families; however no decisions have been made at this time. The president-elect looks forward to continuing the discussion about all aspects of Autism with many groups and individuals.”


Donald J. Trump
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Healthy young child goes to doctor, gets pumped with massive shot of many vaccines, doesn't feel good and changes - AUTISM. Many such cases!

Kennedy:

In 2014, he published a book making the familiar autism argument and laying the blame at the familiar chemical boogeyman: thimerosal, a form of mercury that has been used in vaccines as a preservative and that he claims is poisoning children. As I reported at the time—and as scientists have been saying and saying and saying until they’re hoarse—his thinking is wrong on the chemistry, wrong on the epidemiology and wrong on the basic facts of the case.

TyrantII
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(01-12-2017, 03:31 AM)
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Donald Trump is one sad, pathetic man.

This country is in for a whirl of hurt.
TestOfTide
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(01-12-2017, 03:32 AM)

Originally Posted by animlboogy

I find this guy obnoxious in this thread right now BUT...

Pointing out that Kurt Eichenwald is kind of a nutcase? Noting that Wikileaks shouldn't be trusted by default but they haven't released any false leaks yet? Clarifying that the Snowden leaks were vetted by journalists and not released through Wikileaks?

This is a weird collection of posts to make your point with. And even weirder to have people quoting and cheering you on.

The Kurt Eichenwald shit was him justifying celebrating seeing Kurt assaulted with epilepsy inducing images.

The Wikileaks stuff is him claiming that we should totally trust Wikileaks and they never post false info (even though they have).

You're right that the Snowden post doesn't fit there though. I'll remove it.
Xe4
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(01-12-2017, 03:35 AM)
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Originally Posted by Schattenjäger

Trump is not anti-vax

He supports more spread out vaccinations but that's his personal opinion - won't impact policy

Trunp is absolutely, 150,000,000% anti-vaxx.

The fucker beleives they cause autism, you can't really get much more anti-vaxx than that.

Healthy young child goes to doctor, gets pumped with massive shot of many vaccines, doesn't feel good and changes - AUTISM. Many such cases!
6:35 AM · Mar 28, 2014

https://mobile.twitter.com/realdonal...815552?lang=en

He is truly the worst thing that's happened to science in quite a while.

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