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AngmarsKing701
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(02-13-2017, 01:22 AM)
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Originally Posted by Harry Stewart

I can't be bothered anymore. Even in its worst times, Homeland could at least be counted on to be engaging and have some great twists. This season's storyline is shockingly dull.

I pay less and less attention every week. It's almost like background noise at this point. I'll watch Walking Dead tonight, then Black Sails tomorrow, then maybe turn this on either tomorrow or Tuesday.

Ho-meh-land
Baron Aloha
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(02-13-2017, 03:12 AM)
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Originally Posted by Harry Stewart

I can't be bothered anymore. Even in its worst times, Homeland could at least be counted on to be engaging and have some great twists. This season's storyline is shockingly dull.

Things started moving tonight.
Dysun
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(02-13-2017, 05:51 AM)
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Some of these disparate plot lines finally came together.
Quinn's target entered the same building that Seikou and his friends work at, interesting to see where that is heading.
royalan
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(02-13-2017, 05:56 AM)
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Good episode. Alright, now things are starting to feel like Homeland.

Sucks about Seikou, but really dude was a dumbass for going right back to posting videos.

Also, I predicted this earlier. This season Quinn is going to be the right one that nobody believes, and Carrie is going to be the one so far up her own ass that she misses what's right in front of her.
dead souls
(02-13-2017, 07:17 AM)
Great episode.
RatskyWatsky
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(02-13-2017, 07:57 AM)
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Yep, that was a pretty good one. I'm glad the pace is finally picking up.

Also, it's nice to see that Quinn's storyline is already tying into Carrie's - I thought they'd wait until the season was nearly over to start connecting things.
Fried Food
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(02-13-2017, 10:23 AM)
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Poor Homeland, all the political happenings feel so quaint now.
Aureon
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(02-13-2017, 10:35 AM)
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I'm liking this a lot, it even seems sane in comparison to what Trump is doing.
Did Dar Adal just false flag a bombing?
Lego Boss
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(02-13-2017, 10:40 AM)
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Did Quinn manage to get out of bed/go to the shop this ep?

Riveting stuff. Edgy writing.
Deku Tree
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(02-13-2017, 12:19 PM)
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This twist Is 24 Tier.
Grizzlyjin
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(02-13-2017, 03:47 PM)
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Decent episode. Kept me interested the entire time. So the people watching Carrie planted the bomb. This entire time I thought maybe an intelligence agency was keeping an eye on her, or Quinn was just being incredibly paranoid. Maybe someone is getting retribution for the videos of dead soldiers?
Undefined
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(02-13-2017, 04:29 PM)
I had a feeling something was wrong when the truck exploded.
Harry Stewart
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(02-13-2017, 08:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by Undefined

I had a feeling something was wrong when the truck exploded.

I LOLed.

Yeah the ending of the last one was aight.
Tugatrix
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(02-13-2017, 09:34 PM)
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I sense the dirty paws of Dar in all of this.

Wouldn't it be cool if they finally tied that mole plot from season 1?
darkwing
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(02-14-2017, 07:12 PM)
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loving this slow burn, bring the next episode now
AngmarsKing701
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(02-14-2017, 07:21 PM)
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Yeah had a feeling that van was gonna go kerplooey
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(02-14-2017, 10:37 PM)
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Dar's "striking hair" line is the funniest quick jab in a while.
Sectorseven
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(02-14-2017, 10:39 PM)
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The young person they introduce each season always gets killed.
RatskyWatsky
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(02-14-2017, 10:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by -Pyromaniac-

Dar's "striking hair" line is the funniest quick jab in a while.

Yep, it made me lol.

Originally Posted by Sectorseven

The young person they introduce each season always gets killed.

It's their way of apologizing for Dana.
BeforeU
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(02-14-2017, 10:46 PM)
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lol of course Quin was right somehow. And the dude he followed planeted the bomb. Why am I
not surprised.
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(02-14-2017, 11:15 PM)
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Quinn is the best that's why. H8ers gonna h8. Eggs on carries face.
Tugatrix
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(02-14-2017, 11:20 PM)
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Quinn doesn't need motor coordination to keep kicking ass...
AngmarsKing701
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(02-15-2017, 12:23 AM)
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Originally Posted by RatskyWatsky


It's their way of apologizing for Dana.

I said daaaaayuuuummmmm
dead souls
(02-15-2017, 03:35 PM)

Originally Posted by RatskyWatsky

It's their way of apologizing for Dana.

Apologizing? I'd say it's more that the writers know they've already had the best teenage character they ever could, so anyone else is just cannon fodder.
CrisKre
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(02-15-2017, 07:45 PM)
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I´m actually liking the season and think they are things are getting more interesting as it goes along. Hated the first episode, but it has been pretty great after it.
Aureon
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(02-16-2017, 01:17 AM)
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Originally Posted by dead souls

Apologizing? I'd say it's more that the writers know they've already had the best teenage character they ever could, so anyone else is just cannon fodder.

Someone actually liked Dana on this earth?
I would've never guessed.

Originally Posted by CrisKre

I´m actually liking the season and think they are things are getting more interesting as it goes along. Hated the first episode, but it has been pretty great after it.

Yeah, with you here.
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BeforeU
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(02-16-2017, 01:19 AM)
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Originally Posted by CrisKre

I´m actually liking the season and think they are things are getting more interesting as it goes along. Hated the first episode, but it has been pretty great after it.

sarcasm? or we actually have a fan of Dana here
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jrush64
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(02-16-2017, 01:29 AM)
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Glad that things have finally picked up. Very good episode.
shanafan
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(02-16-2017, 02:46 AM)
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Great episode.

Curious, anyone watching the new season of 24? Decent?
Dysun
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(02-16-2017, 03:46 AM)
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Originally Posted by shanafan

Great episode.

Curious, anyone watching the new season of 24? Decent?

It's very 24, full of good and bad. Even without Jack I think its decent as a fan of the show.
Grizzlyjin
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(02-16-2017, 03:52 AM)
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Originally Posted by shanafan

Great episode.

Curious, anyone watching the new season of 24? Decent?

I'm going to cosign what Dysun said. We're only 3 episodes in and they've gotten fairly ridiculous but its had some fun 24 moments too.
univariate
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(02-16-2017, 04:00 AM)
That was really contrived and boy do I hate Quinn. I'm dumping this shit.
shanafan
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(02-16-2017, 05:50 AM)
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Originally Posted by Dysun

It's very 24, full of good and bad. Even without Jack I think its decent as a fan of the show.

Originally Posted by Grizzlyjin

I'm going to cosign what Dysun said. We're only 3 episodes in and they've gotten fairly ridiculous but its had some fun 24 moments too.

Thanks! I'll maybe watch after Homeland finishes up. Not sure I could remember two similar TV show plots at once, lol
shanafan
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(02-16-2017, 02:35 PM)
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Originally Posted by BeforeU

lol of course Quin was right somehow. And the dude he followed planeted the bomb. Why am I
not surprised.

Honesty, I expect the guy he trailed to not be involved at all. When I watched the scene of Quinn following the guy, my thoughts were.. this guy probably just works there. We'll see.
Saty
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(02-18-2017, 05:52 PM)
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As if the show wasn't up its own ass enough with Carrie the agent or ex-agent who is a one woman Intelligence agency that does what entire organizations can't, now we have Quinn being the same.

lol at the Israelis holding Saul prisoner. CIA's #1 or #2 guy and a public face. And letting him go because of the attack? Yeah, cause no one would go 'WTF is Saul' on normal operation..
BeforeU
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(02-18-2017, 05:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by Saty

As if the show wasn't up its own ass enough with Carrie the agent or ex-agent who is a one woman Intelligence agency that does what entire organizations can't, now we have Quinn being the same.

lol at the Israelis holding Saul prisoner. CIA's #1 or #2 guy and a public face. And letting him go because of the attack? Yeah, cause no one would go 'WTF is Saul' on normal operation..

yeah shit is way over the top for my taste. I know its a show and all, but I expect some level of realism. I think I am finally going to give up watching it. Really enjoyed first 2 seasons. And some scenes from past seasons were brilliant too. But that's about it.
Future
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(02-18-2017, 06:00 PM)

Originally Posted by Saty

As if the show wasn't up its own ass enough with Carrie the agent or ex-agent who is a one woman Intelligence agency that does what entire organizations can't, now we have Quinn being the same.

lol at the Israelis holding Saul prisoner. CIA's #1 or #2 guy and a public face. And letting him go because of the attack? Yeah, cause no one would go 'WTF is Saul' on normal operation..

Don't agree. Carrie is often shown as wrong, and here she appears right because the CIA is manipulating info for reasons unknown. She was wrong about dismissing Quinn though

Quinn noticing something awry is consistent with his character, and makes sense given the fact he's home all the time. The earlier episodes were not about just showing his current state after last season, but also showing why carrie (and the viewer) wouldn't trust him

Isreali dude knows Saul and worked with him in the past. That connection caused him to be let go and also not really "captured." He's not an enemy

All pretty good writing to me
royalan
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(02-18-2017, 06:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by Saty

As if the show wasn't up its own ass enough with Carrie the agent or ex-agent who is a one woman Intelligence agency that does what entire organizations can't, now we have Quinn being the same.

lol at the Israelis holding Saul prisoner. CIA's #1 or #2 guy and a public face. And letting him go because of the attack? Yeah, cause no one would go 'WTF is Saul' on normal operation..


Saul isn't a public face.
Kadin
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(02-18-2017, 07:03 PM)
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So how has the show been since the Brody story-line ended? I watched it I think for about half of the next season before I stopped. I really loved the show until this part ended and it started to go in a new direction? Gonna do my best to just read responses in the hopes that I start watching again down the road.
Saty
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(02-18-2017, 09:04 PM)
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Originally Posted by Future

Don't agree. Carrie is often shown as wrong, and here she appears right because the CIA is manipulating info for reasons unknown. She was wrong about dismissing Quinn though

Quinn noticing something awry is consistent with his character, and makes sense given the fact he's home all the time. The earlier episodes were not about just showing his current state after last season, but also showing why carrie (and the viewer) wouldn't trust him

Isreali dude knows Saul and worked with him in the past. That connection caused him to be let go and also not really "captured." He's not an enemy

All pretty good writing to me

Carrie isn't 'often' wrong. She is mostly right and always depicted as the only person 'astute' enough to figure out what's going on. That's the shtick every season that makes it all a farce.
And again this season. Roadblock? Carrie ofc has a friend that can get her recordings. No matter how adamant that person was refusing to help her when they talked, next morning the thumb drive was waiting for her.

I don't need Quinn being saved by the writers only to play Carrie's role and be the guy that saves the day or cracks this case or that manages to observe and track what no one else seemingly can.

Saul was kept in a room with the plan to keep him overnight and with no communication. He was imprisoned. There's no other way of calling it. Which is preposterous that the Mossad would treat CIA's #1 or #2 guy like that or that's the plan of action they chose to take. Saul was leading the CIA in one of the past season. They made it sound like the Israelies were going to keep him imprisoned as if no one would inquire what happened to him and only 'thanks' to the attack they are letting him go.

Originally Posted by royalan

Saul isn't a public face.

As the #1\#2 person in the CIA, he is. It was his name and his face all over the news and all over those Senate hearings 2-3 seasons ago. Arresting him the way they did isn't sound espionage. But 'sound' or 'espionage' haven't been Homeland's concern for ages. And so far this season isn't offering cheap thrills, pace, action or insanity.
RatskyWatsky
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(02-19-2017, 08:02 AM)
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New episode tonight!

Casus Belli

Keane gets sidelined; Carrie's work follows her home.

Persona7
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(02-20-2017, 03:53 AM)
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Liked this episode. Next week should be really good.
NYR
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(02-20-2017, 04:05 AM)
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"My client was a Terrorist and I freed him, no biggie or anything, need to organize a babysitter first"

WTF was with her reaction to the phone call.
dead souls
(02-20-2017, 07:25 AM)
That was a really short episode, but it was riveting. I'm so glad Carrie saw the pictures. I can't wait for next week.
metalslimer
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(02-20-2017, 07:29 AM)
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Are they really going to have the intelligence community be behind a false flag attack to discredit the president? Pretty ironic plot line given real world events.
Aureon
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(02-20-2017, 08:27 AM)
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Don't fuck with Quinn.

Originally Posted by metalslimer

Are they really going to have the intelligence community be behind a false flag attack to discredit the president? Pretty ironic plot line given real world events.

I'm not entirely sure it's CIA. Dar'adal going rogue maybe, but i can't see Saul being in.
One thing is: They used the same guy to do surveillance on Carrie and to rig the van. That means pretty limited operational resources, which wouldn't make sense if CIA eggheads were behind it.
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(02-20-2017, 08:44 AM)
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That was fucking crazy! Things with Quinn went downhill much faster than I thought they would.
shanafan
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(02-20-2017, 03:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by NYR

"My client was a Terrorist and I freed him, no biggie or anything, need to organize a babysitter first"

WTF was with her reaction to the phone call.

Well yeah, your kids will always come first ;)
Grizzlyjin
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(02-20-2017, 05:36 PM)
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Jesus Christ, Quinn. Just jeez.
Nodnol
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(02-20-2017, 07:23 PM)
I've always enjoyed Homeland...even when it was a bit dumbat times. Enjoying this season too, particularly the social and political parallels to RL because it's talking and exploring ideas and themes that need exploring. If only briefly, but...

...I'm curious what the end game is. I feel like we already know the net result, and just need to get to how. Dar's put the PE in an isolated location, away from her advisors, one of whom he's discredited, and the false flag attack pulls the rug out from under the PE's policies. It seems obvious he's had Carrie under surveillance for some time, and probed regarding her relationship with the PE, and has systematically deconstructured the pillars of that relationship, weakening a PE who doesn't align with his own world views and policies. Dar also leaked the evidence to Carrie, to deliberately have the kid released, only so he could disgrace Carrie.

Obviously there's this whole Mossad and Iranian plot thread to pull at, but I'm wondering if the audience will get annoyed waiting for the good guys to reach the same point they've been at for weeks.

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