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nynt9
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(03-20-2017, 11:22 AM)
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Originally Posted by wapplew

The article have a point in the context of big western publisher.
Outside Bethesda, most of them seems won't publish AAA single player titles without some kind of multiplayer and micro-transaction.
If MEA don't sell, I doubt EA will greenlight another single player focus games again. Why invest 40m into singleplayer campaign if the multiplayer are much profitable.

Horizon: Zero Dawn is one of the highest rated games of the year so we don't need this turd to make that point. Especially since ME:A's multiplayer seems like a big focus and is seemingly riddled with micro transactions.
TheRedSnifit
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(03-20-2017, 11:23 AM)
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In-game footage of Ryder seeing this thread resurrected:

semiconscious
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(03-20-2017, 11:23 AM)
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Originally Posted by Cerium

Looking back at these types of articles I cannot help but feel that they are nothing more than thinly disguised and extremely cynical marketing.

ya think? :) ...
wapplew
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(03-20-2017, 11:28 AM)
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Originally Posted by xenorevlis

wapple at it again with zany ideas that don't exist in reality. We can't let Sony get away with PS4 Pro!!! You know part of business is keeping the customer happy so they continue to return, right?

Also suddenly God of War, Detroit Become Human, Days Gone, Prey, Spider-Man, and other upcoming AAA single player games from Western devs don't exist now?

Off course those games exist, but they exist with different reason, they were created to sell console while remain profitable.
I'm talking about big western third party publisher (maybe including MS since they also focus on GaaS).
If you look at the sales chart, For Honor and Wildlands, 2 multiplayer focus games sold the best in 2017 so far.
Ubisoft might look at that, and singleplayer focus highly rate Watch dog2 bomb, why bother with single player focus game again?
Eric the Red
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(03-20-2017, 11:43 AM)
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Alright be real, not even the most important of March. The actual argument is a fine idea to float regarding single player epics, hopeful sci-fi, etc. but that click-bait title is hampering it quite a bit. Frame your ME article within the form of some hierarchial list and now the whole conversation is about what other games everyone thinks are more important instead of whatever point you're trying to get across.
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Holundrian
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(03-20-2017, 11:46 AM)
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If the premise of being the most hopeful makes ME the most important game of 2017 I really honestly think Persona 5 is a waaaaaaaaaaay better candidate. I'm kind of pretty sure that P5 also speaks about problems that plague society currently in its own real world but still fantasy way and still carries relevance with that although it might have had it's biggest influence before the election. I have strong doubt that ME:A does the same just by nature of being AAA and the restrictions that usually come with that + the core being exploration and not about freeing yourself from whatever chains you have in your life.

Maybe ME:A is the better pure diversion from everything going on but I think P5 can have the power for some to come out stronger and more determined despite everything going on with the strong message of positivity it carries.
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patapuf
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(03-20-2017, 11:54 AM)
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Originally Posted by Holundrian

If the premise of being the most hopeful makes ME the most important game of 2017 I really honestly think Persona 5 is a waaaaaaaaaaay better candidate. I'm kind of pretty sure that P5 also speaks about problems that plague society currently in its own real world but still fantasy way and still carries relevance with that although it might have had it's biggest influence before the election. I have strong doubt that ME:A does the same just by nature of being AAA and the restrictions that usually come with that + the core being exploration and not about freeing yourself from whatever chains you have in your life.

Maybe ME:A is the better pure diversion from everything going on but I think P5 can have the power for some to come out stronger and more determined despite everything going on with the strong message of positivity it carries.

If one looks for positivity Zelda is pretty strong too.
aspiegamer
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(03-20-2017, 11:55 AM)
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Ooh, good bump. I want to go back to this quote from the OP:

First of all, epic, narrative-driven, single-player video games are on the decline. They’re not quite a dying artform, but they’re certainly endangered.

The 3 GOTY contenders out in the past month, none of which are named "Mass Effect," that are all single-player RPGs, laugh at this statement. Laugh so, so hard. There have been other great single-player games, too, that despite solid reviews (RE7, Yakuza, Nioh) have been boxed out by the sheer flood of quality games the first 3 months of this year. Andromeda landing like a wet fart versus expectations and hype is at the worst imaginable time. Had it been at the start of this streak we'd forget about it a lot more easily.

If Persona 5 ends up as good as impressions, Mass Effect will stand out painfully as the biggest disappointment of the hyped games. That it would be 4 other RPGs of varying sub-genres showing it up is even more hilarious.
d9b
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(03-20-2017, 11:56 AM)
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Originally Posted by sphinx

personally, Horizon and Zelda, say "fuck no"

Perfection!
takriel
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(03-20-2017, 11:57 AM)
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Originally Posted by TheRedSnifit

In-game footage of Ryder seeing this thread resurrected:

Holy shit. I feel sheer terror right now. I absolutely hated that fucking walrus as a child, and I still hate it to that day.

Excuse me while I'm going to go cry in a corner now.
nubbe
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(03-20-2017, 11:58 AM)
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Most important game in 2017 that teaches us how to not make games in 2017
Turin Turambar
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(03-20-2017, 12:03 PM)
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Originally Posted by wapplew

The article have a point in the context of big western publisher.
Outside Bethesda, most of them seems won't publish AAA single player titles without some kind of multiplayer and micro-transaction.
If MEA don't sell, I doubt EA will greenlight another single player focus games again. Why invest 40m into singleplayer campaign if the multiplayer are much profitable.

But MA isn't one of them. It's an AAA single player game with some kind of multiplayer and microtransactions.
Holundrian
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(03-20-2017, 12:03 PM)
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Originally Posted by patapuf

If one looks for positivity Zelda is pretty strong too.

I'm sure that's the case if we're talking about pure positivity/hopefulness there also things like Yooka Laylee. I haven't played Zelda yet so excuse me if I'm wrong and it does speak within the game about problems we face today but I intentionally picked Persona 5 because it does a good job of giving you a positive outlook to some of the crazy real life problems that are happening nowadays at least if your takeaway goes beyond "so we all just gotta become phantom thieves :P". It was strangely relevant when I played it 6 month ago I think it's still pretty relevant now in some ways more than back then in some ways less.
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thepenguin55
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(03-20-2017, 12:10 PM)
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Man, gotta love that Glixel hyperbole.
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(03-20-2017, 01:35 PM)
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Originally Posted by Ragnar Blackmane

Dug out with a vengeance.

bumper with the receipts
UserDoesNotExist
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(03-20-2017, 01:44 PM)
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I'm reminded of Jolee Bindo's story about the "important Jedi".
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(03-20-2017, 01:59 PM)
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First of all, epic, narrative-driven, single-player video games are on the decline. They’re not quite a dying artform, but they’re certainly endangered.

Oh yes... Zelda, Horizon, Persona 5, Nier, Yakuza 0... so many declining single player only games that sell nothing....

Games like Mass Effect and Uncharted require vast development teams with enormous art and animation divisions to generate the detailed visual assets necessary in the 4K UHD era.

Talking about animation in ME and comparing it to UC4... do I really need to comment?

Probably will be the most disappointing game of 2017, considering how long many people waited for it.
Calabi
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(03-20-2017, 02:06 PM)
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They were probably right though. I doubt any other game is going to be able to beat all these memes.
Wedge7
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(03-20-2017, 02:11 PM)
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Lol knew this would be bumped haha

Such a stupid article
cw_sasuke
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(03-20-2017, 02:13 PM)
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Glixel...not a good look. This in addition to their Switch bitching for weeks - not a fan right now.
karasu
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(03-20-2017, 02:21 PM)
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Aren t Narrative single player games just hitting their stride? The Last of Us wasn't that long ago. Especially this quarter with Yakuza, Horizon, Nier, etc
OniBaka
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(03-20-2017, 02:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by Calabi

They were probably right though. I doubt any other game is going to be able to beat all these memes.

Red dead glitches were pretty funny.
eliochip
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(03-20-2017, 02:40 PM)
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I don't think this game is terrible but come on. Also,


How to write an article title:

• Why this is the best thing ever.
or
• Why this is the worst thing ever.

Literally the only two options you have these days apparently
Cerium
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(03-20-2017, 09:59 PM)
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Originally Posted by Eric the Red

Alright be real, not even the most important of March.

They're lucky that Horizon was technically February or it wouldn't even be Top 3 in March.
jtb
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(03-20-2017, 10:04 PM)
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GTA V and Skyrim sold more copies than god. This idea that "single player games are extinct" is so dumb.
StereoVsn
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(03-20-2017, 10:06 PM)
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Originally Posted by jtb

GTA V and Skyrim sold more copies than god. This idea that "single player games are extinct" is so dumb.

Also, In the quarter with Horizon and Zelda not to mention Nioh and Nier (GR2 and Yakuza 0) it's a little strange to wonder about viability of SP games. Not to mention this is after FFXV sold quite well in Nov-Dec-Jan.
OrbitalBeard
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(03-20-2017, 10:09 PM)
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Originally Posted by jtb

GTA V and Skyrim sold more copies than god. This idea that "single player games are extinct" is so dumb.

While it is a dumb argument, one of the reasons GTA V continues to sell is due to its multiplayer component. MP is going to be a huge aspect of RDR2 as well.
ElBoxyBrown
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(03-20-2017, 10:09 PM)
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To be fair, if Mass Effect didn't matter it wouldn't be getting so much attention and controversy.
Nicko
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(03-20-2017, 10:10 PM)
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Originally Posted by Llyrwenne

Completely disagree.

Especially with Horizon: Zero Dawn incoming. A big AAA game with a non-sexualized female protagonist that is being pushed hard by big publisher.

Completely disagree as well. 2nd your feelings about how refreshing and positive it is to see a non-sexualized female lead.

Also, I'm pretty disgusted with how ME:A is packing in the gratuitous sex and nudity. I for sure won't be picking it up for that reason.
afreaknamedpete
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(03-20-2017, 10:10 PM)
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I feel like, for the first time in a long time, more epic story-heavy single player games are coming out this year than I know what to do with.

I mean, I've already played FFXV, Nier Automata, Tales of Berseria, which were all super-long story focused RPGs this year.

I have Yakuza 0, ME:A on my backlog. Persona 5 is coming out in weeks (pending any surprise delays). Normally I play like 2 or 3 epic single player games a year and there's like at least 6 I want to play just in early 2017.
Kayhan
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(03-20-2017, 10:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by Cerium

Looking back at these types of articles I cannot help but feel that they are nothing more than thinly disguised and extremely cynical marketing.

winner winner chicken dinner
Peltz
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(03-20-2017, 10:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by Cerium

Lol this is perfect
Vigilant Walrus
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(03-20-2017, 10:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by takriel

Holy shit. I feel sheer terror right now. I absolutely hated that fucking walrus as a child, and I still hate it to that day.

Don't be racist. Walruses are a diverse group of people. Don't buy into the stereotypes!
bizzarewars
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(03-20-2017, 10:14 PM)
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Yeah, DA:I in space is definitely going to be the most important game in a year with a new Resident Evil, Zelda, Persona and 3D Mario. Makes perfect sense.
StoveOven
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(03-20-2017, 10:19 PM)
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They might be right in a "Time Person of the Year" sort of way. It's obviously too soon to say whether that's the case, but the fact that a sequel to an incredibly beloved trilogy got a comparatively harsh critical response is important.
meanspartan
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(03-20-2017, 10:19 PM)
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Slightly off-topic, but this was my first time on Glixel, seems like a cool site. Hadn't heard of it before, is it new?

It kind of seems like what Polygon was before going full click-bait. I loved Polygon's early lengthy features, but I guess they didn't pay the bills.
NOLA_Gaffer
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(03-20-2017, 10:21 PM)
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Christ, nothing brings out the fanboy in folks like purposely baiting thread titles.

I do feel that we need more games in the realm of Star Trek though. Sci-Fi is basically shorthand for "shoot aliens" in games these days.
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pablito
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(03-20-2017, 10:21 PM)
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Not really sure of the contents of the article, but I disagree.

Horizon stars a female protagonist that isn't really sexualized. And while a good looking protagonist, she isn't a perfect 10/10 supermodel or has huge T&A or anything. Some consider her ugly, even (they're crazy, but it's been said). On top of having a racially diverse world, with roles being shared by the genders.

I feel Persona 5 is going to be speaking for all of turn based RPGs when it drops, showing us why they're still awesome and not irrelevant.

Zelda shook up the open world formula from what I've been told. They're a popular type of game but they need some reinvention.

I like Mass Effect but I don't know what it's doing aside from being another Mass Effect game.
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(03-20-2017, 10:22 PM)
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Originally Posted by Nicko

Also, I'm pretty disgusted with how ME:A is packing in the gratuitous sex and nudity. I for sure won't be picking it up for that reason.

I looked up the romance scenes out of curiosity and they are straight up porn-esque, shitty dialogue and all.
bigboss370
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(03-20-2017, 10:22 PM)
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I for one, appreciate the effort that goes into a game like Mass Effect Andromeda.
It feels very layered, like multiple games in one. It has the sci fi action third person shooting in all its glory, with cool different ammo types, and different powers and abilities. But these abilities are varied enough to present multiple classes to choose from.

Then you have the other rpg elements: different sets of armors, character customization, a whole team of characters and NPCs to interact with, dialogue choices and consequences, an expansive story taking place on varied environments. It's alot of work, and there's not other games that quite offer the same thing.

I hope its a successful game so that BioWare and others can keep working on these kinds of games.
It's not "the most important game of 2017", but I think it definitely deserves a space in video game conversation.
Markoman
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(03-20-2017, 10:23 PM)

Originally Posted by Vigilant Walrus

Don't be racist. Walruses are a diverse group of people. Don't buy into the stereotypes!

Says the guy who views dolphins as some type of sex toy.

Man, I really hope for the second coming of christ
ElBoxyBrown
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(03-20-2017, 10:24 PM)
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Originally Posted by Nicko

Also, I'm pretty disgusted with how ME:A is packing in the gratuitous sex and nudity. I for sure won't be picking it up for that reason.

How much of the sex is in the game? If it was packed with nothing but sex and nudity we would have seen articles about it.
SweetJohnnyCage
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(03-20-2017, 10:25 PM)
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Mark this as one of the first articles from Glixel that I strongly disagree with. Single player games definitely aren't on the decline, we're just out of the era of everyone shitting out platformers and adventure games, and have been for a while. The single player games we do have are pretty awesome and expansive, most of the time. There's still some duds, but I think it's in a great place.
friskykillface
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(03-20-2017, 10:26 PM)
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Man.
After all these years of waiting
After lots of E3's of no shows x development videos
Welp
That facial animation thread actually turned me off of the game, as stupid as that sounds

I'll get it when it comes to EA access during the winter
Harlock
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(03-20-2017, 10:27 PM)
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Funny thing how in Glixel podcast they were saying that Andromeda is the Phantom Menace of Mass Effect series.
Steroyd
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(03-20-2017, 10:32 PM)
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Originally Posted by sphinx

personally, Horizon and Zelda, say "fuck no"

Hahahahaha

Mwahahahahahahahahaha

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Dat first post.

While it's sad that ME:A is c-c-combo breaking an awesome start to the year critically (could still do it commercially based on name recognition alone), it is sad that it isn't riding the wave of critically acclaimed games because a space opera that isn't shoot bang focused is rare and another cap in a diverse portfolio we could use.
Hattori
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(03-20-2017, 10:40 PM)
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first post is on point 👌
Fishook
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(03-20-2017, 10:45 PM)
I would quit gaming in a heartbeat if they stopped making single player games. Unless a game is x amount of hours long these days it just does'nt sell. A prime example is Deus Ex and Dishonored 2

Games have now resorted to pointless filler to extend gameplay, only very few games get this right. Publishers are dropping mid tier franchises and we will end up with a lack of AAA games,
veloxStrix
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(03-20-2017, 10:52 PM)
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As soon as I read "Why X is the Most Important Y of the Year" headlines, I know the article itself isn't worth reading.
CaptainofIndustry
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Originally Posted by Bustanen

Most disappointing game of 2017 is more likely.


Unfortunately this seems to be the case so far. I haven't played it yet but this seems to be the Fallout 4 of 2017. A good game, perhaps, that doesn't quite live up to the legacy of its predecessors.

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