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(03-04-2017, 02:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by Jigorath

Maybe stop casting Emma Watson in things.

Maybe stop posting on NeoGAF.
kswiston
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(03-04-2017, 02:22 PM)
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Originally Posted by MarveI

Halle Berry won an oscar. Oscars mean nothing to me.

Every time I post. It's my personal opinion. I thought that much was given.

You responded to a post saying "Emma Stone was highly praised for her perfomance" with "Was she?"

That's not dealing with personal opinion, and what is or isnt important to you is irrelevant. We are talking about the film's reception, and how Stone's performance affected that. You were one of 50 million people who saw the movie.

In general, was Emma Stone praised for her role? Obviously.
MarveI
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(03-04-2017, 02:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by kswiston

You responded to a post saying "Emma Stone was highly praised for her perfomance" with "Was she?"

That's not dealing with personal opinion, and what is or isnt important to you is irrelevant. We are talking about the film's reception, and how Stone's performance affected that. You were one of 50 million people who saw the movie.

In general, was Emma Stone praised for her role? Obviously.

It was a rhetorical question on my end. In a ''be that as it may, I didn't see it that way''.
Silly me for having an opinion that goes against the masses.

But I'll stop here and not derail the thread anymore than I already have. To which I apologize for to everyone else.
Garrett Hawke
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(03-04-2017, 02:50 PM)
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Originally Posted by Not

Don't. Favreau and Gambino. It's gonna haul.

It's gunna be shit, just like jungle book.

Suck out any and all personality, add trending celebs, have ok but frequently meh CG = Jungle Book remake.
CloudWolf
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(03-04-2017, 02:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by MarveI

Was she ? I thought she and Ryan were both miscast. Would've much preferred an actor, actress with a more stage, musical background like Anne and Hugh.

Eh, I disagree. La La Land wasn't your typical musical, I feel that actors with a classical stage musical background would've acted way too much like they were in a musical instead of being in a film that happens to have a few songs into it. It's not like Gosling and Stone didn't have music experience before this: Gosling has been playing music and singing in bands almost as long as he has been a professional actor and Stone was in cabaret. That said, I generally dislike musicals, so perhaps I'm alone in this.
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(03-04-2017, 03:03 PM)
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Any word on the auto tune for Emma Watson? Those trailers were smothered in it. My SO will probably want to see this but I'll be happy so long as Dan Stevens keeps getting big roles. Guy is super underrated.
kswiston
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(03-04-2017, 03:23 PM)
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Originally Posted by CloudWolf

Eh, I disagree. La La Land wasn't your typical musical, I feel that actors with a classical stage musical background would've acted way too much like they were in a musical instead of being in a film that happens to have a few songs into it. It's not like Gosling and Stone didn't have music experience before this: Gosling has been playing music and singing in bands almost as long as he has been a professional actor and Stone was in cabaret. That said, I generally dislike musicals, so perhaps I'm alone in this.

Emma Stone's role definitely relied more on acting than singing. She had one solo, two duets, and that ensemble piece near the beginning, in what was a 130 minute film largely starring two people. That's a lot of non-singing. Also, several of her scenes worked because she was able to get a lot of emotions across through her facial expressions and body language without being over the top dramatic.

I have zero confidence that Emma Watson could pull any of that off (plus she can't sing as evidenced by the movie subject of this thread). I don't think that finding a young actress from a stage background who could match Emma's acting and easily best her singing would be impossible. However, Emma Stone does come with some name recognition.

I liked Ryan Gosling in this role, but I think that he would be easier to replace.
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(03-04-2017, 03:36 PM)
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Originally Posted by Burbeting

Emma Watson passed the starring role of La La Land for this movie. Hmmh..

The trailers didn't do much for me, so I've been skeptical.

She didn't pass La La Land for this. She was asking for way too much money for the role and the LLL producers just said AYY LMAO
Bladenic
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(03-04-2017, 03:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by PsihoPerihelion

She didn't pass La La Land for this. She was asking for way too much money for the role and the LLL producers just said AYY LMAO

That's hilarious. She definitely wouldn't have won a single award that Stone did. I like Watson but an Oscar caliber actress she is not.
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(03-04-2017, 03:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by PsihoPerihelion

She didn't pass La La Land for this. She was asking for way too much money for the role and the LLL producers just said AYY LMAO

Did they actually said that?
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(03-04-2017, 03:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by Finaika

Did they actually said that?

Probably? Sounds like something lamers who would make a movie like La La Land would say.
spuckthew
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(03-04-2017, 03:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by Bladenic

That's hilarious. She definitely wouldn't have won a single award that Stone did. I like Watson but an Oscar caliber actress she is not.

Bro, she's 26. She's potentially got decades in this business.
TheSeks
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(03-04-2017, 03:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by Parahan

Wait, what happened to grint? I always thought the cast of HP were some of the most well-adjusted child actors

Nothing. He does smaller roles and generally stays out of the spotlight, compared to Watson and Whatshisface.
Sibersk Esto
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(03-04-2017, 03:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by PsihoPerihelion

She didn't pass La La Land for this. She was asking for way too much money for the role and the LLL producers just said AYY LMAO

That was for Miles Teller, from a questionable source which he denied on Twitter. By all accounts, Watson dropped out of LLL for this.
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(03-04-2017, 04:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by Burbeting

Emma Watson passed the starring role of La La Land for this movie. Hmmh..

The trailers didn't do much for me, so I've been skeptical.

Good. That movie was pretty great. And quite contingent on the chemistry of the two leads

Emma Watson would have tanked that shit. Imagine her in the audition scene....yikes
Jigorath
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(03-04-2017, 06:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by Parahan

Wait, what happened to grint? I always thought the cast of HP were some of the most well-adjusted child actors

He drives an ice cream truck!
J_Viper
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(03-04-2017, 06:20 PM)
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Hmm, strange how quickly that RT average rebounded

#followthemoney
Quick
(03-17-2017, 03:53 AM)
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Just got back, it's pretty damn good. Pardon the possibly scattershot review.

It's a gorgeous movie in parts, though with moments where the CG pops out too much (particularly exterior wide shots of the castle itself). Be Our Guest is a highlight - it's just a ton of fun. Visual spoiler: Super in-your-face Aladdin reference was cool, I'm guessing it's a hint that Disney's working on that next.

The big scene - the dance scene - started off pretty basic, but steps its game up as it continues on. I was a bit worried it would just be so bland, but it wasn't even its final form.

The movie is thankfully not just a 1-to-1 remake of the animated movie. There's added background, which adds some needed layers to what otherwise would've been a bland movie. Almost disappointed that Gaston isn't given more background, but I can deal with that.

Emma Watson and Dan Stevens have some really good chemistry as Belle and Beast. Watson particularly does a commendable job with her musical numbers and just got better as the movie goes along, autotune/mixing or not.

Dan Stevens has one big song (Evermore), and it's pretty fucking great. It wouldn't be out of place with the original 1991 movie. I'm curious if that's him solely or if they had to do a bit of work to make his voice deeper to match the Beast appearance, but either way, it's great. Perfect piece for the Beast.

Luke Evans IS Gaston. Dude nailed it, cheesiness and all. He really had fun with it.

Josh Gad as LeFou wasn't just comic relief, thankfully. He earns his paycheque with Gaston (the song) alone.

Ewan McGregor and Ian McKellen were fucking hilarious. McGregor particularly carries the furniture cast.

I had Luke Evans and Josh Gad penned as the MVPs at the start, but it's Ewan McGregor and Ian McKellen by the end of the movie.

I was worried that the new music wouldn't mesh with the originals, but each one works so well. I've already commented on Evermore, so I'll go straight to How Does A Moment Last Forever. The Celine Dion version is straight out of the 90s, it's so damn good, very powerful ballad. And the versions throughout the movie are appropriately subtle. Emma Watson's version hits a bit hard in context of the movie.

Days In The Sun might be a tearjerker. Great piece for the cast.

Beauty and the Beast: Emma Thompson isn't Angela Lansbury, but she does a good job with the material. THE version of the song will always be Lansbury's, but Thompson ain't a slouch either. I'm expecting there to be a lot of YouTube videos putting Lansbury's version in on the full scene in the future though.

Final note on the music: I almost miss the super in-your-face pop versions that Disney usually comes up with for their movies (Peabo Bryson/Celine Dion version of the title song, for example). Alan Menken probably vetoed that with the Celine Dion version of How Does A Moment Last Forever and the Josh Groban version of Evermore. And thankfully so.

On those gosh darn gays ruining our innocence: It's really overblown. LeFou definitely has a thing for Gaston, but it's not like he's straight up crawling all over him. It's probably insulting to Josh Gad's work to have it summarized simply as "he's gay for Gaston."
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(03-17-2017, 04:02 AM)
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Originally Posted by Burbeting

Emma Watson passed the starring role of La La Land for this movie. Hmmh..

The trailers didn't do much for me, so I've been skeptical.

I would marry Emma Watson in a heartbeat but let's be honest, her passing on La La Land was probably a good thing. Emma Stone killed it.
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(03-17-2017, 04:03 AM)
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Originally Posted by MarveI

Was she ? I thought she and Ryan were both miscast. Would've much preferred an actor, actress with a more stage, musical background like Anne and Hugh.

You've got rocks in your head.

Originally Posted by MarveI

It was a rhetorical question on my end. In a ''be that as it may, I didn't see it that way''.
Silly me for having an opinion that goes against the masses.

But I'll stop here and not derail the thread anymore than I already have. To which I apologize for to everyone else.

But saying Emma Stone was acclaimed for her role isn't an opinion. It's a verifiable fact. What are you on about?
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(03-17-2017, 04:05 AM)
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Originally Posted by Decado

The '91 film is a classic. This never looked like it would be half as good. A little surprised at the low reviews, though. I hated Jungle Book and it got great reviews.

To be fair, the negative reviews still say it's a good film, it's just a lifeless remake of the original. Most fans will probably be happy. It's going to make a lot of money.
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(03-17-2017, 04:05 AM)
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I agree with pretty much everything Quick said. I liked it a lot more than I was expecting to. Even had some laugh-out-loud moments - the snowball "fight" slayed me.

It's going to make so much money, and I am okay with that.
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(03-17-2017, 04:06 AM)
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Originally Posted by Quick

Just got back, it's pretty damn good. Pardon the possibly scattershot review.

Originally Posted by WatTsu

I agree with pretty much everything Quick said. I liked it a lot more than I was expecting to. Even had some laugh-out-loud moments - the snowball "fight" slayed me.

It's going to make so much money, and I am okay with that.


So happy to hear you both enjoyed it. I can't wait to see it tomorrow. :')
Quick
(03-17-2017, 04:12 AM)
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Originally Posted by WatTsu

I agree with pretty much everything Quick said. I liked it a lot more than I was expecting to. Even had some laugh-out-loud moments - the snowball "fight" slayed me.

It's going to make so much money, and I am okay with that.

Minor scene spoiler: OH FUCK THAT SNOWBALL HIT FUCKING KILLED ME. I was hoping they'd have a gag with Belle having to tend to her face or something.
brandonh83
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(03-17-2017, 04:21 AM)
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I liked it a lot. A few awkward moments what was up with her telling him to grow a beard and that fucking growl lmao but it was very faithful and the music numbers were mostly good. Be Our Guest was a real visual standout.

Beyond the songs, Alan Menken came back to score again and he did such a good job. I would've liked a bit more given to Belle and for more depth to Gaston as he's pretty one-dimensional but the actors did really well. Emma was fine. If I had character nitpicks it'd be on a script level.
nicoga3000
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(03-17-2017, 04:22 AM)
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Just got back a short bit ago.

I think Cinderella was better, but this was still good.

I can't believe people were freaking out about the whole "gay scene". It isn't ever explicitly stated and it can be taken as a fun playful joke considering the circumstances.

Overall, I wish the movie would have been more "unique" and not just a remake of the animated film. I feel like Cinderella took more chances and therefore stood out to me more. This was still fantastic!
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(03-17-2017, 04:24 AM)
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Originally Posted by nicoga3000

I can't believe people were freaking out about the whole "gay scene". It isn't ever explicitly stated and it can be taken as a fun playful joke considering the circumstances.

As suspected it's yet another "it's fucking nothing" that people demand to make a controversy about.

I mean, it's fucking nothing.
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(03-17-2017, 04:25 AM)
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I saw the movie today. It was good, obviously it's nothing new or going to wow anybody, but the acting and the visuals were good for the most parts, except for the excessive motion blur in some scenes. The servants really made the movie, Lumiere especially.

As people above said, the snowball fight scene got me chuckling as well
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I just watched it last night:

1. I loved everything about it. Loved the ballroom dance and the ending it was so magically dreamy. I loved it along with Cinderella.

2. The LeFou thing wasn't so obvious in the movie. It's negligible to almost nothing.

Originally Posted by brandonh83

As suspected it's yet another "it's fucking nothing" that people demand to make a controversy about.

I mean, it's fucking nothing.

Preach. I hate it when people get way too worked out and create issues over nothing. And I mean not only this issue but a lot of things.
brandonh83
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(03-17-2017, 04:28 AM)
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Originally Posted by ULTROS!

2. The LeFou thing wasn't so obvious in the movie. It's negligible to almost nothing.

It's pretty obvious, he even has a line where he says something about playing on the other team or something along those lines during the Gaston song, but like I said and can't stress enough, it's fucking nothing :p
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(03-17-2017, 04:29 AM)
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Better reviews than I was expecting, frankly.

The movie always looked like uninspired mediocrity.
nicoga3000
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(03-17-2017, 04:30 AM)
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Originally Posted by brandonh83

As suspected it's yet another "it's fucking nothing" that people demand to make a controversy about.

I mean, it's fucking nothing.

Yup. Like, had Disney not said anything, you would have laughed at the scene and thought "Josh Gad killing it per usual!" Instead, it's a "So that's what all the fuss was about?"

Whatever. People are dumb.

Oh, one other note - Be Our Guest felt like the whole scene was put together to justify a 3D release. Kind of wish they wouldn't have been SO theatrical as it didn't feel like it fit as well as everything else.
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(03-17-2017, 04:33 AM)
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Originally Posted by nicoga3000

Oh, one other note - Be Our Guest felt like the whole scene was put together to justify a 3D release. Kind of wish they wouldn't have been SO theatrical as it didn't feel like it fit as well as everything else.

Yup.

I saw it in 2D, so I missed out on blinding myself lol
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(03-17-2017, 04:34 AM)
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Originally Posted by Quick

Just got back, it's pretty damn good. Pardon the possibly scattershot review.

It's a gorgeous movie in parts, though with moments where the CG pops out too much (particularly exterior wide shots of the castle itself). Be Our Guest is a highlight - it's just a ton of fun. Visual spoiler: Super in-your-face Aladdin reference was cool, I'm guessing it's a hint that Disney's working on that next.

The big scene - the dance scene - started off pretty basic, but steps its game up as it continues on. I was a bit worried it would just be so bland, but it wasn't even its final form.

The movie is thankfully not just a 1-to-1 remake of the animated movie. There's added background, which adds some needed layers to what otherwise would've been a bland movie. Almost disappointed that Gaston isn't given more background, but I can deal with that.

Emma Watson and Dan Stevens have some really good chemistry as Belle and Beast. Watson particularly does a commendable job with her musical numbers and just got better as the movie goes along, autotune/mixing or not.

Dan Stevens has one big song (Evermore), and it's pretty fucking great. It wouldn't be out of place with the original 1991 movie. I'm curious if that's him solely or if they had to do a bit of work to make his voice deeper to match the Beast appearance, but either way, it's great. Perfect piece for the Beast.

Luke Evans IS Gaston. Dude nailed it, cheesiness and all. He really had fun with it.

Josh Gad as LeFou wasn't just comic relief, thankfully. He earns his paycheque with Gaston (the song) alone.

Ewan McGregor and Ian McKellen were fucking hilarious. McGregor particularly carries the furniture cast.

I had Luke Evans and Josh Gad penned as the MVPs at the start, but it's Ewan McGregor and Ian McKellen by the end of the movie.

I was worried that the new music wouldn't mesh with the originals, but each one works so well. I've already commented on Evermore, so I'll go straight to How Does A Moment Last Forever. The Celine Dion version is straight out of the 90s, it's so damn good, very powerful ballad. And the versions throughout the movie are appropriately subtle. Emma Watson's version hits a bit hard in context of the movie.

Days In The Sun might be a tearjerker. Great piece for the cast.

Beauty and the Beast: Emma Thompson isn't Angela Lansbury, but she does a good job with the material. THE version of the song will always be Lansbury's, but Thompson ain't a slouch either. I'm expecting there to be a lot of YouTube videos putting Lansbury's version in on the full scene in the future though.

Final note on the music: I almost miss the super in-your-face pop versions that Disney usually comes up with for their movies (Peabo Bryson/Celine Dion version of the title song, for example). Alan Menken probably vetoed that with the Celine Dion version of How Does A Moment Last Forever and the Josh Groban version of Evermore. And thankfully so.

On those gosh darn gays ruining our innocence: It's really overblown. LeFou definitely has a thing for Gaston, but it's not like he's straight up crawling all over him. It's probably insulting to Josh Gad's work to have it summarized simply as "he's gay for Gaston."

Saw it 14 hours ago and I have to completely agree on this. The 1991 animated film is among my faves of all time so, while extremely excited about a live action adaptation, I definitely had my reservations about it. I'm glad to say that I was smiling from ear to ear by the time the credits rolled. And not just that, people were legit clapping too. That doesn't happen so much where I'm at. The few changes they made were actually good and helped flesh out the characters more. I'm so glad they gave the Beast a solo song and, boy, is his song really good! And that outrage over LeFou is nothing but an overreaction.

A little off-topic: I still prefer Celine Dion and Peabo Bryson's pop version of the song. The new one isn't awful (like the Demi Lovato version of "Let It Go") but something just didn't click with me. Or maybe I just don't like the new singers. LOL
Quick
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Originally Posted by ZettaiSeigi

A little off-topic: I still prefer Celine Dion and Peabo Bryson's pop version of the song. The new one isn't awful (like the Demi Lovato version of "Let It Go") but something just didn't click with me. Or maybe I just don't like the new singers. LOL

The Peabo Bryson/Celine Dion version is damn good.

My theatre was PACKED. Plenty of people tearing up (heard a lot of sniffling) and clapping in the end. I almost teared up multiple times, not gonna lie.
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(03-17-2017, 04:47 AM)
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Originally Posted by Quick

My theatre was PACKED. Plenty of people tearing up (heard a lot of sniffling) and clapping in the end. I almost teared up multiple times, not gonna lie.

The stuff with the inanimate object characters actually becoming so was pretty heavy
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(03-17-2017, 04:51 AM)
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Just got back from this, and it was an enormous nostalgia trip. I never realized just how many of these songs I knew and loved, nor did I expect how much I enjoyed watching a movie I've seen so many times as a very young child come to life.

I can't say any of the liberties taken made the film better, and I can't say it's better than the original, but damn if it isn't close.

I was pleasantly surprised.
I teared up in the ballroom dance scene and ending coz I felt like a kid again when I first watched Beauty and the Beast.

Speaking of Disney tear-jerkers, I wonder how they'll pull of the Baby Mine scene from Dumbo in the upcoming remake. I hope they can make the entire audience sob lol.
brandonh83
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(03-17-2017, 04:55 AM)
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Originally Posted by The_blonde_and_blue

I can't say any of the liberties taken made the film better, and I can't say it's better than the original, but damn if it isn't close.

I think the liberties helped at least a little, I mean the movie is mostly slavish to the original and I appreciated the new things especially a particular subplot-- wasn't much to it, but it did add something for me. I felt more connected to Belle and her father through it and I thought it made Belle's connection with Beast even stronger as he allows her the means to visit that place and learn those things

Again it's not much, but it worked.
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(03-17-2017, 04:59 AM)
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You know, I never get the stockholm syndrome people kept saying on Disney's version.

Belle didn't like being kept in the castle, and the only reason she was trying to be nice was because of the attendants, and when given a chance to go home she did go home and only came back when she heard of Gaston's plan.
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Originally Posted by Garrett Hawke

It's gunna be shit, just like jungle book.

Suck out any and all personality, add trending celebs, have ok but frequently meh CG = Jungle Book remake.

Whew great post.
UnknownSpirit
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(03-17-2017, 05:01 AM)
Awesome to see people enjoying it. Seeing it in IMAX on Saturday night.

Found out the IMAX print is using the whole screen size instead of just having black bars. So I'm curious on if it will make it look even better.
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(03-17-2017, 05:03 AM)
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Originally Posted by The_blonde_and_blue

Just got back from this, and it was an enormous nostalgia trip. I never realized just how many of these songs I knew and loved, nor did I expect how much I enjoyed watching a movie I've seen so many times as a very young child come to life.

I can't say any of the liberties taken made the film better, and I can't say it's better than the original, but damn if it isn't close.

I was pleasantly surprised.

It sounds like you went in with fair expectations and came out pleased with the film. There's some mega hate going around on the web and I think people are finding ways to dislike the film.
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(03-17-2017, 05:04 AM)
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Just saw it. It was so cute!

Emma Watson was great. The new songs they added were garbage filler and the movie would have been better without them. The new backstory they added actually made the story even better.

I thought Be Our Guest was beautifully animated. It bothered me that everyone had an English accent. They cut out the hairy chest line from Gaston's song, which was a bummer.

The gay scenes were super cute (the last one was perfect). And the shirtless scene with the Beast...whew, I was SWEATING. Lord!!!
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DJChuy
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(03-17-2017, 05:06 AM)
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Thanks for the impressions guys. You guys got me super excited for the movie.

My Disney Store is located in front of the theaters. I expect lots of people will go there after seeing the movie.
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(03-17-2017, 05:25 AM)
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In the little I saw during the sneak peak, Gaston came off less like a brainless musclehead and a little more like a sociopath. That's not exactly a bad thing but it was different.

LeFou was great though.
UraMallas
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(03-17-2017, 05:35 AM)
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The Cinderella recreation got similarly tepid reviews and I absolutely loved it. I'm way in for this.
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(03-17-2017, 05:39 AM)
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It was alright. Girlfriend loved it. I thought it was decent we are both huge fans of the original.
miller.skippins
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(03-17-2017, 05:44 AM)
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i don't understand the need to remake these disney classics though..

why not create new modern classics instead...like Enchanted? Now that's a good movie.
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Originally Posted by miller.skippins

i don't understand the need to remake these disney classics though..

why not create new modern classics instead...like Enchanted? Now that's a good movie.

nostalgia/recognition = $$$

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