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LionPride
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(03-19-2017, 06:04 PM)
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JonTron's Statement


It's basically a double down, no apology really, just "I was flustured guys, I'm not really racist, I just happened to say racist things"

FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT JONTRON SAID, I IMPLORE YOU TO LOOK AT THE LAST THREAD INSTEADING OF MAKING AN ASS OF YOURSELF...
http://neogaf.site/forum/showthread.php?t=1352025

SINCE MORE PEOPLE WANNA CONTINUE SHOWING THEIR ASS BECAUSE THEY'RE LAZY...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DlZxJY2518
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R02k1sQpc2k
Last edited by LionPride; 03-21-2017 at 09:06 PM.
animlboogy
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(03-19-2017, 06:05 PM)
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uuuhhh well basically Samantha Bee told some jokes, and now I'm a big Eugenics guy

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Corky
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(03-19-2017, 06:06 PM)
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This is going to be interesting to watch, wonder what his defence/reasoning for being an unapologetic racist is.
SwordStruck
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(03-19-2017, 06:06 PM)
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Don't really see how this changes anything.
hitme
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(03-19-2017, 06:06 PM)
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Someone give me a summary. Would not rather give him a click.
DocSeuss
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(03-19-2017, 06:06 PM)
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Dude should learn how to actually craft an effective argument. Also probably learn that if you're trying to convince people of a thing, using disputed sources isn't the way to go.
DNAbro
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(03-19-2017, 06:07 PM)
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Someone give the main points, can't watch right now.
liquidtmd
(03-19-2017, 06:07 PM)
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Ermm this word 'debate' he keeps using.

I don't think it means what he thinks it means.

Say something fucking stupid, people criticize it - 'lol we're having a debate'.

No son.
freeze_
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(03-19-2017, 06:07 PM)
"whoops, i was accidentally a white supremacist because i got a little flustered. ALWAYS BE OPEN TO LEARNING NEW THINGS KIDS"
animlboogy
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(03-19-2017, 06:07 PM)
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Originally Posted by hitme

Someone give me a summary. Would not rather give him a click.

my post above is basically it
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(03-19-2017, 06:07 PM)
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metalslimer
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(03-19-2017, 06:07 PM)
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Oh god fuck yourself. These niggers only see race, why cant white people be talk about their glorious culture? Piece of shit

Hope his reputation is shot forever
Muntu
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(03-19-2017, 06:07 PM)
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Originally Posted by Corky

This is going to be interesting to watch, wonder what his defence/reasoning for being an unapologetic racist is.

He wasn't prepared for the debate and his statements could be/were misconstrued.

So... Yeah.
KojiKnight
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(03-19-2017, 06:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by hitme

Someone give me a summary. Would not rather give him a click.


This. Op really should have taken the time to do so before posting.


In fact, I'd argue op should only have a description and not link directly to him or his video.
Yamibito
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(03-19-2017, 06:08 PM)
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Damn, just what I wanted, JonTron talking about how trash of a person he is without someone calling him out on his bullshit.
FlutterPuffs
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(03-19-2017, 06:08 PM)
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bullshit statement.

Basically just affirms his views for being a racist, having fascist ideology and asking people not to judge him for it.
L Thammy
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(03-19-2017, 06:08 PM)
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Can't watch right now, but can I assume that he takes no personal responsibility for what he says and is instead upset that there are consequences to his actions?

Also, can I assume that "get fucked JonTron" is an appropriate response?
spindashing
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(03-19-2017, 06:08 PM)
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He just doubles down.

No need to give him a click.
grandwizard
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(03-19-2017, 06:08 PM)
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Fuck this guy
sym30l1c
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(03-19-2017, 06:09 PM)
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"I was under a lot of pressure..."

"I suck at debate..."

"I said a lot of stuff that could be misconstrued... "

FUCK HIM.
animlboogy
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(03-19-2017, 06:09 PM)
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Originally Posted by Muntu

He wasn't prepared for the debate and his statements could be/were misconstrued.

So... Yeah.

What's there to misconstrue? He never makes a case for that.

He said what he said. If he's going to pull some softboy-ass take-backsies, he needs to actually explain what he supposedly meant. Which he doesn't. Because he meant it.

He wants the same thing all these round neckbeard race realists want, some kind of fantasy kid version of the First Amendment that extends to "don't criticize me, ever."

They're giant wusses in search of a manly identity, and videos like this prove the rule.
foxuzamaki
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(03-19-2017, 06:09 PM)
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There isn't much to misconstrue over what you said Jon and this video doesn't help
Im_So_Pringles
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(03-19-2017, 06:09 PM)
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"Whoops, I shared my racist beliefs. You guys didn't like that. I'm not wrong, but I'll definitely refrain from doing that in the future."
benicillin
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(03-19-2017, 06:09 PM)
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Jon "non-whites taint the gene pool" Tron tries to deflect, but it fails horribly.
Bobby Roberts
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(03-19-2017, 06:09 PM)
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Originally Posted by hitme

Someone give me a summary. Would not rather give him a click.

He opens with the suggestion that his debate was being taken out of context by various media outlets and promoting ideas he doesn't really believe, and then cops to the fact he choked under the pressure of a public debate and didn't express himself very well. He then attempted to express himself much better, thanks to having a prepared statement ready to go, and read from it, essentially backing up all the ignorant beliefs at the core of every single dumb utterance that fell from his fucking head during the debate. There is no real apology, and the only regret he seems to have is for his own lack of preparation. He apparently believes if he'd prepared more, nobody would be mad at him.

So it's a "Sorry not sorry. Don't trust what the media says about me."
Fancolors
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(03-19-2017, 06:09 PM)
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Well, this changes nothing.
Tagyhag
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(03-19-2017, 06:09 PM)
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Originally Posted by Muntu

He wasn't prepared for the debate and his statements could be/were misconstrued.

So... Yeah.

Lol goddamn it.

How does "diluting the gene pool" become misconstrued Jon? How????
Nokterian
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(03-19-2017, 06:09 PM)
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Originally Posted by sym30l1c

"I was under a lot of pressure..."

"I suck at debate..."

"I said a lot of stuff that could be misconstrued... "

FUCK HIM.

I am not watching, not worth a click and this sums it up nicely..
Shaanyboi
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(03-19-2017, 06:09 PM)
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No, no, dig up stupid

- J - D -
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(03-19-2017, 06:09 PM)
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Non-apology with shades of martyrdom. Yep, expected as much.
What did he mean by this?
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(03-19-2017, 06:09 PM)
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Did he at least give a shout out to his pals David Duke, TotalBiscuit, Hitler and Boogie2988?
Magikoopa24
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(03-19-2017, 06:09 PM)

Originally Posted by Muntu

He wasn't prepared for the debate and his statements could be/were misconstrued.

So... Yeah.

It's hard to misconstrue "wealthy blacks commit more crimes than poor whites" as anything BUT racist as fuck.

Not gonna bother watching the video, based on summaries its what I expected and I'm still disappointed.
Muffin1611
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(03-19-2017, 06:09 PM)
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Stopped watching when he used the picture of a Breitbart article in an unironic way.
Holden
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(03-19-2017, 06:09 PM)
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but guys immigrants ruining the genepool isn't racist /s
PizzaFace
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(03-19-2017, 06:10 PM)
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He didn't say much, did he?
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"It's hypocritical for those who see everything in terms of race to suddenly turn around and object when white people speak up for what they believe are the best interests of their race."

This is probably not going to help him.
Sir TapTap
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(03-19-2017, 06:10 PM)
If he doesn't apologize I'm not going to give a view, fuck that. Sounds awful from the responses so far which is what I'd expect.

Originally Posted by Muffin1611

Stopped watching when he used the picture of a Breitbart article in an unironic way.

Oh dang

they don't even realize Bertbert isn't a very reputable source do they?
LonelyGreyWolf
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(03-19-2017, 06:10 PM)
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We were discussing this video in the OT earlier. For those who don't want to give him a click, it's basically just a short doubling down on what he said earlier, this time a little more focused, and with some selection of articles meant as rhetorical evidence for his opinions.

My take is that it's basically meant as a closure for him. At the end of the video, he claims that he is done talking about politics, and will focus on just doing comedy, however we'll see how true that is.

The video is unlisted, meaning only his Twitter followers et. al. will be watching it, ensuring that his three million plus subscribers remain oblivious to this whole thing.
Garrett Hawke
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(03-19-2017, 06:10 PM)
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so essentially he worded his racism like open racism but he wishes he had worded it in a less openly racist way. :lol
jacob armitage
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(03-19-2017, 06:10 PM)
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"I was a bit all over the place, i said a lot of stuff that could be misconstrued in a lot of ways. Things are being extracted from this that i know i don't think."

Bullshit Jon.

Also he brought up how he attacked "the media" and a lot of the negative articles being a revenge hit on him.
mullet2000
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(03-19-2017, 06:10 PM)
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Wow a Youtuber doubles down instead of actually apologizing.

I, for one, am shocked.
Trace
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(03-19-2017, 06:10 PM)
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"I was misconstrued"

No you're just a racist.
mr teaspoon
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(03-19-2017, 06:10 PM)
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Originally Posted by animlboogy

uuuhhh well basically Samantha Bee told some jokes, and now I'm a big Eugenics guy

like, share, subscribe

Oh sweet jesus, no. He didn't bring up Sam Bee, please tell me.

She's smart and talented and funny, you're none of those things, Jon.
Kaako
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(03-19-2017, 06:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by spindashing

He just doubles down.

No need to give him a click.

Thanks, saved me a click.
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(03-19-2017, 06:11 PM)
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Yamibito
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(03-19-2017, 06:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by Muntu

He wasn't prepared for the debate and his statements could be/were misconstrued.

So... Yeah.

"I know I made myself look like a big awful racist but you know I'm actually just a white nationalist, which is definitely different. No doubt about it. Please don't criticize what I say that's misconstruing me. Please."
Garrett Hawke
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(03-19-2017, 06:11 PM)
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also these youtubers really need to stop blaming the media

these people have so many kids watching them, can't go any youtube video about the wsj without FAKE NEWS PEWDS ARMY REPORTING IN shit

eroding confidence in trusted news sources = how we get trump.
TeamLeftMatch
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(03-19-2017, 06:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by Tagyhag

Lol goddamn it.

How does "diluting the gene pool" become misconstrued Jon? How????

Well clearly Jon meant Gene's pool not the gene pool


Come one guys he said not to judge him and we definitely should give a white supremacist the benefit of the doubt

/s
Nokterian
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(03-19-2017, 06:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by mr teaspoon

Oh sweet jesus, no. He didn't bring up Sam Bee, please tell me.

She's smart and talented and funny, you're none of those things, Jon.

Sam Bee is everything, jon tron will never be.
GiantBombGamer
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(03-19-2017, 06:11 PM)
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The only statements I would've accepted would have been "hey I was having a mental breakdown, I'm getting help" or "hey I was on some substances that made me temporarily crazy". Since its neither of those things, he can piss off IMO.

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