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Roude Leiw
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(09-03-2009, 12:09 PM)
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Originally Posted by Zyzyxxz

life

how much does a M1 cost these days? and is there a company which produces (not sure if they are called replica in that case) them for gun collectors?
Subliminal
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(09-03-2009, 12:13 PM)
UKGaffer here, Forgive me for being 'small-minded'

But why do you NEED guns, They're dangerous weapons why do you need to carry one around with you?
Corky
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(09-03-2009, 12:25 PM)
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Originally Posted by Subliminal42

UKGaffer here, Forgive me for being 'small-minded'

But why do you NEED guns, They're dangerous weapons why do you need to carry one around with you?

from one Eugaffer to another, let me just say you wont get a truely concrete answer to this other than the usual : " selfdefence, 2nd amendment and for fun " all 3 which cant be openly disputed on an internet forum i m o ;D
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(09-03-2009, 12:32 PM)
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Originally Posted by Roude Leiw

how much does a M1 cost these days? and is there a company which produces (not sure if they are called replica in that case) them for gun collectors?

To get a match grade Garand you're looking AT LEAST 1000 dollars. You can find some in decent condition around 800 though. But yeah, new ones with newer parts and custom fabrication can be from 1200- over 2000. You can get a new M1A carbine from the Springfield armory in several configurations(brand new rifles) for around 1800.
Roude Leiw
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(09-03-2009, 12:33 PM)
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Originally Posted by Subliminal42

UKGaffer here, Forgive me for being 'small-minded'

But why do you NEED guns, They're dangerous weapons why do you need to carry one around with you?

EUGaffer here. I wouldn't want to carry one around with me. But i plan on buying some in the future, after graduating, i am a poor student at the moment ;). My dad had a few when i was a kid (i had a competition air rifle), and i had a lot of fun with them at the range.

To get a match grade Garand you're looking AT LEAST 1000 dollars. You can find some in decent condition around 800 though. But yeah, new ones with newer parts and custom fabrication can be from 1200- over 2000. You can get a new M1A carbine from the Springfield armory in several configurations(brand new rifles) for around 1800.

thanks.
Meus Renaissance
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(09-03-2009, 12:40 PM)
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Reminds me of another thread where people were sharing photographs of the Samurai Swords they own.
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(09-03-2009, 12:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by Cooter

It should be fine. Everything is perfectly legal and this isn't a gun control thread.

BUT IT SHOULD BE!!

j/k. Can't help but feel you might be trying to bait one by saying you need it for protection after a night of gambling though :lol

I think gun laws should be less strict in europe.

Well its hard enough to get a car license here (1500 euro minimum in holland) which I think is fucking nuts since I have a valid NZ one already and they won't let me convert, but I think that would be about right for a gun license.

I don't mind people having guns if they can show the discipline required to get one legally. Givin em out like candy just means stupid people get them and fast.
Arcane Hayter
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(09-03-2009, 12:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by Subliminal42

UKGaffer here, Forgive me for being 'small-minded'

But why do you NEED guns, They're dangerous weapons why do you need to carry one around with you?

2012*





*see also: the apocalypse
jonremedy
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(09-03-2009, 12:52 PM)


Used to be my service weapon when I had my year in the Norwegian army. Good times at the shooting range :D
golem
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(09-03-2009, 01:26 PM)
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Originally Posted by itxaka

Probably because if someone with a gun/rifle/whatever goes nuts and starts shooting at people it will be less damaging with 10 rounds that with 30/40/whatever.

Well, really it takes about 2 seconds to change a clip, so the law is just to make it seem like politicians are doing something to prevent massacres. In real life if someone is determined to shoot alot of ammo off it isn't exactly going to slow them down.

Originally Posted by Cindres

I don't get CCA (is it CCA?), you can legal carry it as long as it's hidden, does it mean you can shoot to kill in self defence?

Yeah CCW licenses allow people to carry concealed (most states allow open/unconcealed carry, just look at the controversy about the obama town halls), self defense laws vary from state to state, some indicate Duty to Retreat, some allow Stand Your Ground, also Castle Doctrine applies in alot of states.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_..._United_States
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(09-03-2009, 01:32 PM)
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Are guns for home protection a necessity in the US or what? Everyone here seems to have one or wants one, and not just a small handgun on top of that.

I live in Canada, and no one in my family have guns at their house for home protection (as far as i know) because we have no need of them. I'm sure it's the same for alot of other canadians. I guess crime isn't as big in here thankfully.
golem
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(09-03-2009, 01:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by Bisnic

Are guns for home protection a necessity in the US or what? Everyone here seems to have one or wants one, and not just a small handgun on top of that.

Will the majority of gun owners ever actually shoot or even draw their gun in self-defense? I would guess not, but like they say, its better to have and not need than need and not have. Also firearms are much more than just for self defense, they are fun as a hobby and a sport.
taylor910
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(09-03-2009, 01:57 PM)
I have a glock 26. It is very small. They make magazine extenders that give you an extra finger rest on the bottom of the magazine. I suggest getting one.

Check out the .40cal too, virtually the same gun but better stopping power.
LosDaddie
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(09-03-2009, 02:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by Cooter

So I'm finally in a position to purchase a gun. Check this sweet thing out.







http://www.glock.com/english/glock26.htm

It's perfect for what I want, a small weapon easily concealed for those late nights coming out of the casino. It shouldn't be more than $800 after the gun, bullets, holster, concealed permit, and registration.

Anyone one own one and have any thoughts they would like to share?

Nice!

I've owned a Glock .40 for 6yrs now.
Zeke
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(09-03-2009, 02:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by MWS Natural

Funny this thread popped up because I have been thinking of purchasing a handgun for home protection and range use but didn't really know where to start. A friend of mine bought a 9mm from the gun store for $199 I didn't realize they come that cheap! Not sure if I would go that low but I don't want to go over $400 for one. Any suggestions?

if you're looking for home protection that last firearm you'll want is any kind of handgun or rifle. Shotguns are you're best bet for home defense.
Medalion
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(09-03-2009, 02:20 PM)
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This thread is like sniper catnip.
Anasui Kishibe
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(09-03-2009, 02:21 PM)
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Originally Posted by Pikmindictator

I think gun laws should be less strict in europe.


no thanks. NO THANKS.
taylor910
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(09-03-2009, 02:22 PM)

Originally Posted by Zeke

if you're looking for home protection that last firearm you'll want is any kind of handgun or rifle. Shotguns are you're best bet for home defense.

Definitely...or you could buy the "Judge." That thing shoots .45cal bullets and can also be loaded with .410 shotgun shells! This one might be next on my list.
Zeke
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(09-03-2009, 02:25 PM)
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heh I have a little 410 sitting in my room its a cool little gun light as a feather too

Originally Posted by Zyzyxxz

can't go wrong with a glock.

I'm not really into guns for self protection but I just wanna own them for collectors sake and to take them out to the range once in a while.

I have to say after playing so many WWII games I must get a M1 Garand sometime in my life

He, I have an Arisaka...Sweet firing gun. The recoil is amazing light for it's round (slightly different 30.06



Though I want to get an AK-47, not for the gun so much as the iconography behind it, the gun that literally changed, and keeps changing the world.
chaostrophy
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(09-03-2009, 02:34 PM)
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My dad has a pretty substantial gun collection, with a focus on 1911 variations. The only gun I've ever owned though was one that he gave me, a Smith & Wesson 22 revolver. Not really useful for self-defense but it's accurate and fun to shoot. Also it just has a nice feel to it, it's a solid, precision-machined chunk of metal.

Though I live in Chicago and handguns are banned here, so I keep the gun at my parents' place and shoot it only when I visit. I'm pretty moderate on the gun control issue...if Chicago's handgun ban came up as a referendum, I'd vote to repeal it, but in a sense I voted for it with my feet by moving here.
joelseph
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(09-03-2009, 02:38 PM)
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Originally Posted by golem

My current rifle setup

[img]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2535/3773837577_4f7c04f6a6_b.jpg[img]

Where do you live?
HylianTom
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(09-03-2009, 02:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by Zeke

heh I have a little 410 sitting in my room its a cool little gun light as a feather too

I had so much fun with mine growing-up.

Mmm.. squirrel meat.. :D
J-Rod
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(09-03-2009, 02:44 PM)
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I have a little .22 revolver loaded with hollow points for home defence. Yeah, yeah, I know. It's too weak to do anything to an intruder except piss them off.

I feel like revolvers are a good choice because they are reliable and because you're less likely to shoot yourself. You can clearly see if it is loaded, and you can't accidentally leave a round in the chamber.
Gallagher
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(09-03-2009, 02:45 PM)
I would trade every gun for a nice pair of tits.!

Never understand why someone has to keep a weapon for private use or stuff.
Alucrid
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(09-03-2009, 02:46 PM)
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I'll probably buy a gun (revolver probably) later, for show that is. aka on a mantel with no ammo. :lol Same goes for a sword.
Meadows
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(09-03-2009, 03:10 PM)
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Originally Posted by Pikmindictator

I think gun laws should be less strict in europe.

Do you live in the EU?
hypostatic
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(09-03-2009, 03:42 PM)
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I'm Canadian, so no handguns for me, but I do have a Remington .22 rifle. I want to get a Restricted license one day for shooting at a club.
commish
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(09-03-2009, 03:45 PM)
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I used to own a Glock 19, but gave it away. Stupid NYC gun laws.
Darklord
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(09-03-2009, 03:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by Cooter


It's perfect for what I want, a small weapon easily concealed for those late nights coming out of the casino.

They let you carry a concealed weapon into a casino? What the fuck?
DieNgamers
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(09-03-2009, 03:56 PM)
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Man, some of you guys are ready for a zombie apocalypse, that's for sure. I hope you don't practise on animal targets. Ò__Ó
Jamesearlcash
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(09-03-2009, 03:57 PM)
I wish i could get a gun, but here in the uk its a no-go. A p90 would be nice.
GoldenEye 007
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(09-03-2009, 03:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by DieNgamers

Man, some of you guys are ready for a zombie apocalypse, that's for sure. I hope you don't practise on animal targets. Ò__Ó

We practice on kittens, just for you.
Yoritomo
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(09-03-2009, 04:11 PM)
Just got a SA XD45 Service. Had to send the thing in since I was getting nosedive misfeeds and something was out of spec as I couldn't manually eject a non fired round and chamber the next via the slide.

Have a cheap Norinco 1911 for daily carry while waiting for my XD. The norinco is amazingly accurate for such a cheap chinese 1911.
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(09-03-2009, 04:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by GoldenEye 007

We practice on kittens, just for you.

Yoritomo
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(09-03-2009, 04:24 PM)

Originally Posted by Bisnic

Are guns for home protection a necessity in the US or what? Everyone here seems to have one or wants one, and not just a small handgun on top of that.

I live in Canada, and no one in my family have guns at their house for home protection (as far as i know) because we have no need of them. I'm sure it's the same for alot of other canadians. I guess crime isn't as big in here thankfully.

Most here buy them as a hobby. Sure there are political and cultural ramifications. If you're white in the US you have a 3 out of 100,000 chance of being murdered. A Canadian has a chance of 2 out of 100,000.

There's not that much explicit danger for your stereotypical owner.
Fenderputty
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(09-03-2009, 04:43 PM)
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I have an old 1905 or less .22 cal rifle. It's pretty sick and has the octagon barrel. We hardly shoot it though. I mostly shoot skeet, hunt with my shotguns. Which I own two.
JBuccCP
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(09-03-2009, 04:46 PM)
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All I have is an old ass single barrel shotgun I got from my grandpa. I don't have any shells though and have never shot it.
crazy monkey
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(09-03-2009, 04:48 PM)
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why do you need so many guns at home?
KHarvey16
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(09-03-2009, 04:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by crazy monkey

why do you need so many guns at home?

Why do you need so many video games?
GoldenEye 007
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(09-03-2009, 04:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by crazy monkey

why do you need so many guns at home?

To shoot commies.
Yoritomo
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(09-03-2009, 04:53 PM)

Originally Posted by Subliminal42

UKGaffer here, Forgive me for being 'small-minded'

But why do you NEED guns, They're dangerous weapons why do you need to carry one around with you?

Because there's nothing inherent to a gun that CAUSES the cultural problems that bring about murder. The US has huge problems. We have the largest percentage of adults incarcerated in the entire world, one of the highest per capita healthcare costs, some unbelievably retarded partisanship that argues over semantics more than policy, add in the revelation of preemptive war from the last administration and you can see we've got issues.

We also have a strong culture of personal empowerment. Guns flow into that. For many Americans guns represent equality. It represents our ability to engage equally with any other individual and do so without being intimidated or coerced.
Fenderputty
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(09-03-2009, 04:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by chaostrophy

My dad has a pretty substantial gun collection, with a focus on 1911 variations. The only gun I've ever owned though was one that he gave me, a Smith & Wesson 22 revolver. Not really useful for self-defense but it's accurate and fun to shoot. Also it just has a nice feel to it, it's a solid, precision-machined chunk of metal.

I think the .22 cal is one of the mafia's favorite weapons for doing hits. Quiet, deadly. The bullet enters the head and doesn't have enough force to leave. So it ricochets around for a while.

The bullets are also lighter and travel further and faster then most other calibers as well.
bigGIRLSblouse
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(09-03-2009, 04:57 PM)
My wife was just issued her Glock by the Police Force.. it's our first gun. Pretty bad ass little weapon. We went to the range and had some fun. I know little to nothing about weapons but its a .45
Cindres
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(09-03-2009, 05:00 PM)
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I didn't really understand the entry on wiki, i know it's possible to get some sorts of guns in some cases but i don't the the whole deal.
This is on gun ownership and use in the UK, anyone know the deal?
eXistor
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(09-03-2009, 05:00 PM)
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Originally Posted by KHarvey16

Why do you need so many video games?

Worst analogy ever?
KHarvey16
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(09-03-2009, 05:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by eXistor

Worst analogy ever?

No? People buy games because they want them.
Sallokin
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(09-03-2009, 05:12 PM)
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I have a Kimber 1911 Pro Carry II for daily carry and an full sized Jericho 941-F for the range. If the OP is looking for a really reliable concealed carry weapon I'd definitely recommend the subcompact baby desert eagle .45. It's a really well balanced weapon. If you're going for the Glock though go with the Glock 30. GREAT gun, easy to carry and the larger cal (.45) is ideal for self defense.
Micromegas
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(09-03-2009, 05:25 PM)
I had a Walther PPK for years.

Then I had kids.

Bye-bye gun.
eznark
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(09-03-2009, 05:30 PM)
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Originally Posted by crazy monkey

why do you need so many guns at home?

Why do you care?

I like the glock. Have one in my nightstand. I got an AR-15 last summer, it's an absolute blast to shoot. Also have a .22 for squirrels and am thinking of picking up a new handgun. Haven't decided on what, but my father in laws friend came up from South Carolina and had a Desert Eagle. Ridiculously bad ass.

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