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lexi
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(02-26-2010, 09:17 AM)
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Originally Posted by Alfarif

Question Number 1: Now that I've sat here for about an hour thinking on it... if anyone would like to share when they FIRST realized they didn't feel right in their traditional role and when you decided to actively make a change. Kind of a "getting to know you" I guess.

Hmm, I really wish I could remember, but really, it's just something I think that's always been with me as far back as I can remember (pre-kindergarten). I hated hanging around with the boys in kindergarten and was much more comfortable playing with girls, I would actually get upset and cry if there was some sort of forced segregation.

I remember in first grade, for some school event we had this country dancing thing, cowboys and cowgirls etc. This is deeply embedded in my mind as basically pure trauma. Every time we would rehearse, I would make a scene and basically caused hell for my teachers.

Without getting too autobiographical, basically I (tried) to keep this part of me a secret, I didn't know why I felt this way, I started to hate that I felt this way and that I couldn't just be normal. Now as for when I decided to actively make a change, I knew I wanted to in my mid teens, but the fear was too great. For many years I tried to ignore it and just try to live normally. I was hopeless at approaching girls because while I was sexually attracted to them, in no way whatsoever did I want anything to do with them sexually as a male.

Anyway, skip ahead a few years (sadly, a common theme amongst transgenders is that they always lament how they wish they started earlier) and I'm seeing a doctor, who puts me on to a therapist, who puts me on to an endocrinologist and here I am today, a few months after beginning HRT (Hormone Replacement Therapy).

Oddly, soon after starting HRT I developed my attraction for males. I'm still attracted to females, but not anywhere near the same degree.

Well, this ended up being a bit longer then maybe you would have liked, sorry. :P

I'll be honest: I recognize you thanks to your "Trap Teddy" avatar, because the moment I noticed that, I wondered if you might be trans. *laughs* I use a different image of TT on my IM account I use specifically for trans-issues. It's like, the trans folks I know gravitate toward avatars featuring Teddy, Poison, or Bridget. *heh*

*laughs* I used a Bridget avatar here for a long time before I was out. And btw your avatar freaks me out, I would welcome a change. :P
Last edited by lexi; 02-26-2010 at 09:25 AM.
water_wendi
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(02-26-2010, 09:23 AM)
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Originally Posted by a Master Ninja

I can't even begin to relate to how difficult this must be. I wish you luck.

Thanks. Everyone has their hurdles regarding love so its hard to get too down over it.

Originally Posted by Alfarif

That had to have been so freakin' rough. I can't even imagine. Are thinking moving forward now? Are you feeling better about where you are?

ive moved past it mostly. Had some help with hypnotherapy in terms of experiencing it as close as i can and put to rest that part of me. The desire to do more pregnancy sessions is very enticing but i cant live in fantasy land forever. Also had some help from friends that got me into my sexual side as making connections with people. One dear Friend in particular even called me frigid :lol Never had i thought of it that way before She brought it up.
Alfarif
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(02-26-2010, 09:23 AM)
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Originally Posted by KAOz

Might get alot of people who are hiding it, be able to talk about it openly and "ease" their minds so to say. :D

I'm wondering how much I can say in this thread about how I feel about life while also asking questions because my freakin' name is pretty much tied to everything I do. One quick search of my user name will pretty much pick up EVERYTHING about me. Could get real awkward if someone who likes my writing or, in the future, videos decides to see what kind of dirt they can dig up on me. Hah. Oh, well. You gotta ask questions to learn!
mollipen
(02-26-2010, 09:26 AM)
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Originally Posted by Number 2

The most telling part for me though was when i hit puberty i would constantly think about boys and getting pregnant. i honestly cannot remember a time when dreaming where i ever used my male body for anything sexual.. it was and has been always me being a woman with a guy, making out and whatnot. i went through a very long prude period of my life because i saw sex as pretty much worthless since i knew i couldnt have children and that screwed with my head during that time.

I had a lot of girly tendencies before hitting puberty, but it was at that point that I started to realize I was having fantasies that I shouldn't be having. I had thoughts of me with women, but I also had an equal (and growing) amount of ones where I was the female with either a male or another woman.

I got really confused by this, especially since at that point I had little concept of what being transgender was. My initial thought was that I must be gay; otherwise, why would I enjoy imagining myself as a woman? The two men I had in my life - my father and my brother - were both ex-army, both real manly men, and both not at all interested in my being gay. My farther, specifically, had told my mother [they were separated, I lived with mom] that he didn't want me going to the same high school my friends were going to, because it was obvious that, as I hadn't had a girlfriend yet, they were making me gay. That, combined with a few other things, made me scared to death of being gay (because it would obviously mean rejection), and I also didn't feel like I was gay because being a man with another man just held little appeal to me.

I also know where you're coming from on the whole pregnancy issue. That's one of many things in all of this that can be really tough.


Originally Posted by Alfarif

I'm wondering how much I can say in this thread about how I feel about life while also asking questions because my freakin' name is pretty much tied to everything I do. One quick search of my user name will pretty much pick up EVERYTHING about me. Could get real awkward if someone who likes my writing or, in the future, videos decides to see what kind of dirt they can dig up on me. Hah. Oh, well. You gotta ask questions to learn!

Yeah, I've kind of been the same way - especially when, up until just a month ago, my nickname (a nickname I've used for 20+ years) could have connected me to my very public in-print self very, very quickly.

I guess, though, I'm starting to get to the "fuck it" stage, for good or bad. My one real concern at this point is what public knowledge could mean for me when it comes to finding a new job, but as I currently live in a state where there is protection for that. Otherwise, I've spent most of my life knowing I was an oddball and not caring about other's opinions of me anyhow, so I guess there's no point in starting now.

If people I already know are going to freak out because of all of this, then they're people I don't need to know anymore. If people I don't know are going to freak out, why the hell should I care about people I don't know?
Last edited by mollipen; 02-26-2010 at 09:32 AM.
Socreges
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(02-26-2010, 09:27 AM)
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Not a transsexual. I'm particularly interested in this thread because I posted in another thread about the word "tranny" and several people replied to me, but the thread was closed before I could give my thoughts. I'll try to be as respectful as possible since I understand that this should be a safe zone and I'm 99% speaking from ignorance.

Originally Posted by Android18a

Depends how it's meant I think. I wouldn't want to be called Tranny, but at the same time it is sorta context based.

Generally I think it shows a lack of respect, though.

Originally Posted by Arde5643

Yeah, tranny's an offensive term since it directly relates to the porn slang for m2f porn performers.

Ahhhh ha. I never realized that was specifically porn slang. The thing is that most people that don't know any transgendered people, such as myself, are familiar with the word but not as a 'hate term'. So it seems harmless to us, ie. merely short-form, while others directly associate it with something vulgar. That's why I argued in another thread that it isn't analogous to "fag", in reply to someone else. Most people that use the word "tranny" have no malicious intent, whereas "fag" is a very loaded term and everyone is well-aware of that. If you use that word, you definitely want to hurt someone. I do see how "tranny" is used with a lack of respect, though.

Originally Posted by Number 2

i want a man that wants me as a woman.. as my passability is somewhat questionable right now this is difficult in the normal dating scene.

So you're really only interested in straight men? Or are you looking for a niche of men that want to be with a woman, but particularly a TG one?

Do you reveal your biological sex immediately? If you were completely passable, would you not mention anything and just progress normally until you feel comfortable revealing your past and nature? If the latter, do you consider this deception or do you think you would be so completely transformed that it shouldn't matter either way?

I guess I'm just wondering what the 'etiquette' is in the TG community. Because speaking for myself and (I'd think) the large majority of heterosexual males, to not reveal your biological sex immediately (if there is sexual interest on your end) would be considered deception and when the person finds out they would be extremely upset. And I'm sure you wouldn't want that to happen, for yourself if not for the other person.

I don't mean to be offensive or anything. I can't imagine what it must be like to feel as you do and have to operate in a society that simply does not accommodate your interests.
Alfarif
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(02-26-2010, 09:29 AM)
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Originally Posted by lexi

Well, this ended up being a bit longer then maybe you would have liked, sorry. :P

Nope, the entire point was for it to be long and involved. Gives you a sense of community, I think.

Originally Posted by Number 2

ive moved past it mostly. Had some help with hypnotherapy in terms of experiencing it as close as i can and put to rest that part of me. The desire to do more pregnancy sessions is very enticing but i cant live in fantasy land forever. Also had some help from friends that got me into my sexual side as making connections with people. One dear Friend in particular even called me frigid Never had i thought of it that way before She brought it up.

Frigid. Coooooold as ice.

QUESTION NUMBER 2: Because it just popped into my mind and lexi kind of made me think of it -- Are you still attracted to the same kinds of people now as you were before beginning either 1) hormone therapy or 2) just the transition process as as whole?
Dresden
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(02-26-2010, 09:32 AM)
Just popping in to show my support for Transgaf.
water_wendi
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(02-26-2010, 09:33 AM)
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About the video game avatars.. about 75% of the time i create a female if the option is available. Only in MMOs do i regularly create male characters. It doesnt happen frequently but people go overboard with the whole hitting on/cyber spam shit. Thats one reason why i dropped out of FFXI a few months back. Everyone in the guild was cool but i was in a bad mood and i swear, ive never come across the kind of bs ive seen in there. i want to grind bad guys while listening to music and audiobooks, not get spammed for cyber constantly or being e-molested by pathetic boys :lol Didnt want to reroll my WHM so i let an incident get under my skin and uninstalled. When i got my head cleared the next morning i had horrible visions of the 10 hour install and said screw it and unsubbed :lol
Alfarif
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(02-26-2010, 09:38 AM)
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Originally Posted by Number 2

i had horrible visions of the 10 hour install and said screw it and unsubbed :lol

Haha, beyond classic. I get on Playstation Home a lot (I have a separate account for it now), and guys on there are pretty crass.

In MMOs, people really don't care that much, because, since I'm not roleplaying any longer, I just talk the way I would in normal conversation. My wife plays with me as well, so people know I'm male. In the old days, when roleplaying was VERY common (Meridian 59/UO/Gemstone III/Dragonrealms), there was almost this line you couldn't cross. I basically hid everything about who I really was because everyone believed I was female. I simply roleplayed my female character from the perspective of a female. It could get... awkward.
mollipen
(02-26-2010, 09:40 AM)
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Originally Posted by Alfarif

Question Number 1: Now that I've sat here for about an hour thinking on it... if anyone would like to share when they FIRST realized they didn't feel right in their traditional role and when you decided to actively make a change. Kind of a "getting to know you" I guess.

Before the thread gets too much farther, guess I'll answer this one.

Thinking when I "first" didn't feel right is tough. I remember being five or six years old, and playing house with a close male friend, where I told him he'd be the daddy and I'd be the mommy. I remember being around that age and sometimes sitting down to go to the bathroom, because it felt "right". I remember being around that age and trying on my mother's jewelry, or pretending to be Princess Leia just as much as pretended to be Luke. I remember, as a small child, being pissed off that my favorite action figure line for some reason omitted a lot of the female characters, or feeling this strange sense of longing and sadness while out clothing shopping, as I looked at the girl's section and all of the wonderful items that were there but which I knew didn't belong to my world.

As for when I started active changes, last year. Basically from puberty on, I've had endless emotional and mental issues, but I never allowed myself to understand what they were or why I had them. Anytime thoughts of wanting to be female cropped up, I was disgusted and embarrassed by myself, and did everything I could to bury those feelings. But, it was like a dam that gets a small crack - day after day, the crack gets bigger, until one day the dam just crumbles. Last May, while watching a TV program on cute Japanese boys dressing up as cute Japanese girls (*laughs*), that switch inside of me was finally flipped, all of those years and years of buried emotions surfaced at once, and I became pretty much a mental and emotional cripple for like two weeks.

Finally, I decided that I couldn't go on living like that, or I'd kill myself, and that I couldn't keep ignoring the problems I was facing or trying to find other excuses for them when the truth was inside of me. So, I took a deep breath, and for the first time in as long as I can remember, I started being honest with myself about who I am (and who I feel I'm supposed to be).

Edit: UGH don't try to type right before going to bed. Stupid mistakes fixed.
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water_wendi
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(02-26-2010, 09:41 AM)
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Originally Posted by Alfarif

Nope, the entire point was for it to be long and involved. Gives you a sense of community, I think.



Frigid. Coooooold as ice.

QUESTION NUMBER 2: Because it just popped into my mind and lexi kind of made me think of it -- Are you still attracted to the same kinds of people now as you were before beginning either 1) hormone therapy or 2) just the transition process as as whole?

i was only on pharm hormones for a very short time before i got my head on straight and stopped. ive done the herbal stuff for extended periods of time but quit when i started to get in shape. Prior to my conscious decision to transition, i was always interested in boys. Even other mtf i had and have little interest in sexually. However, since im not so hung up on things any longer ive come to understand that intimate moments might happen with anyone, at anytime, and for any reason. If that person is not my preferred type but i like and love them as a person i am much more open now to have a physical relationship with them if they understand where im coming from. i guess its kind of a "free love" mentality of sorts i have nowadays. Stuff like this happens very infrequently but i figure if its just fun and it provides an outlet for someone to feel close to another and were both single, why not?
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
(02-26-2010, 09:41 AM)
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Straight-gender-normal GAF reporting in! Just wanted to say I support this thread and everyone here.
Salsa
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(02-26-2010, 09:42 AM)
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Not trans, have a friend that is, wanna show support :D . Great thread !
Alfarif
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(02-26-2010, 09:44 AM)
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Originally Posted by shidoshi

Before the thread gets too much farther, guess I'll answer this one.

Thinking when I "first" didn't feel right is tough. I remember being five or six years old, and playing house with a close male friend, where I told him he'd be the daddy and I'd be the mommy. I remember being around that age and sometimes sitting down to go to the bathroom, because it felt "right". I remember being around that age and trying on my mother's jewelry, or pretending to be Princess Leia just as much as pretended to be Luke. I remember, as a small child, being pissed off that my favorite action figure line for some reason omitted a lot of the female characters, or feeling this strange sense of longing and sadness while out clothing shopping, as I looked at the girl's section and all of the wonderful items that were there but which I knew didn't belong to my world.

As for when I started active changes, last year. Basically from puberty on, I've had endless emotional and mental issues, but I never allowed myself to understand what they were or why I had them. Anytime thoughts of wanting to be female cropped up, I was disgusted and embarrassed by myself, and did everything I could to bury those feelings. But, it was like a damn that gets a small crazy - day after day, the crack gets bigger, until one day the dam just crumbles. Last May, while watching a TV program on cute Japanese boys dressing up as cute Japanese girls (*laughs*), that switch inside of me was finally flipped, all of those years and years of buried emotions surfaced at once, and I became pretty much a mental and emotional cripple for like two weeks.

Finally, I decided that I couldn't go on living like that, or I'd kill myself, and that I couldn't keep ignoring the problems I was facing or trying to find other excuses for them when the truth was inside of me. So, I took a deep breath, and for the first time in as long as I can remember, I started being honest with myself about who I am (and who I feel I'm supposed to be).

I need a .GIF that stands up and applauds, but I can't find one while I'm at work. Absolutely amazing and congratulations!

Edit: Gif found thanks to Fox!

[IMG]http://i49.************/24ludtc.jpg[/IMG]
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water_wendi
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(02-26-2010, 09:48 AM)
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Originally Posted by shidoshi

Finally, I decided that I couldn't go on living like that, or I'd kill myself, and that I couldn't keep ignoring the problems I was facing or trying to find other excuses for them when the truth was inside of me. So, I took a deep breath, and for the first time in as long as I can remember, I started being honest with myself about who I am (and who I feel I'm supposed to be).

:) Such a great feeling though.. to know and understand who you are without self-delusions because of other people.

Also, thanks lexi for making this thread, thanks girls for sharing story stuffs and thanks to non-trans gaf for giving kind support. :)
Binabik15
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(02-26-2010, 09:52 AM)
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Not transgendered, but you have my sword.

Only thing I ever did in that direction was wearing a skirt for kindergarten once, but that was more me being pissed that my 20 months older sister was allowed girl AND boy clothes and I was expected stick to boy stuff. I had long, blonde locks as a kid (now my hair is really dark and dirty blond instead of the honey colour I had ;_;) and apparently the staff asked my mom if she had another kid because no one recognized me :lol


A different question from me: Starting the transformation process during puberty/chemically stopping puberty until the patient hits 18 OR waiting until the natural puberty is over and you have to transform a fully matured adult?

I haven´t heard about anybody regretting the change/living as his identified gender on GAF and most of you (all of you?) knew it from early on, but some psychologists claim that it could be a phase and that many people (would) regret the early sex change. I just don´t really buy that, sounds like they´re bending results (and patients!) to conform with their own ethics/beliefs. But I haven´t really dug into this besides some wiki browsing, because university didn´t let me study psychology D:
Alfarif
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(02-26-2010, 09:54 AM)
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Originally Posted by Android18a

Not yet :( Still stuck with religious/anti-ts family. Need to make a move.

Gonna fly away for a bit and stay with my favourite girl in aussie :-p

You need a whole crew of ass stompers to come through and clear up all of that mess for you. :lol :lol :lol
Rentahamster
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(02-26-2010, 09:58 AM)
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Nice story.
Fox the Sly
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(02-26-2010, 09:58 AM)
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Originally Posted by Alfarif

I need a .GIF that stands up and applauds, but I can't find one while I'm at work. Absolutely amazing and congratulations!

[IMG]http://i49.************/24ludtc.jpg[/IMG]
Alfarif
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(02-26-2010, 10:01 AM)
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Originally Posted by Fox the Sly

[IMG]http://i49.************/24ludtc.jpg[/IMG]

You, sir/ma'am, are a gentlemen/lady and a scholar!
wRATH2x
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(02-26-2010, 10:03 AM)

Originally Posted by lexi

Oddly, soon after starting HRT I developed my attraction for males. I'm still attracted to females, but not anywhere near the same degree.

This is interesting to me, so straight men who transition could develop attraction to males? This is interesting. Can you tell me more about this.

Also another question: To MtF's who were attracted to males before, did you mistake wanting to be a woman with being gay?
water_wendi
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(02-26-2010, 10:06 AM)
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Originally Posted by Binabik15

Not transgendered, but you have my sword.

Only thing I ever did in that direction was wearing a skirt for kindergarten once, but that was more me being pissed that my 20 months older sister was allowed girl AND boy clothes and I was expected stick to boy stuff. I had long, blonde locks as a kid (no really dark and dirty blond instead of the honey colour I had ;_;) and apparently the staff asked my mom if she had another kid because no one recognized me :lol

How cute! :lol

A different question from me: Starting the transformation process during puberty/chemically stopping puberty until the patient hits 18 OR waiting until the natural puberty is over and you have to transform a fully matured adult?

I haven´t heard about anybody regretting the change/living as his identified gender on GAF and most of you (all of you?) knew it from early on, but some psychologists claim that it could be a phase and that many people (would) regret the early sex change. I just don´t really buy that, sounds like they´re bending results (and patients!) to conform with their own ethics/beliefs. But I haven´t really dug into this besides some wiki browsing, because university didn´t let me study psychology D:

Given the choice i would have absolutely done it before puberty. No doubt about that for me at all. i can understand why the therapists are against it though. Even just transitioning as an adult is fairly rough because the doctors and stuff want to make sure you are undergoing it for the right reasons.

Originally Posted by From Harry Benjamins Standards of Care

# Eligibility and Readiness Criteria for Hormone Therapy for Adults

1. Three eligibility criteria exist.
1. age 18 years
2. demonstrable knowledge of what hormones medically can and cannot do and their social benefits and risks
3. Either a documented real life experience should be undertaken for at least three months prior to the administration of hormones Or
4. a period of psychotherapy of a duration specified by the mental health professional after the initial evaluation (usually a minimum of three months) should be undertaken
5. under no circumstances should an person be provided hormones who has neither fulfilled criteria #3 or #4.

2. Three readiness criteria exist:
1. the patient has had further consolidation of gender identity during the real-life experience or psychotherapy
2. the patient has made some progress in mastering other identified problems leading to improving or continuing stable mental health
3. hormones are likely to be taken in a responsible manner
3. Hormones can be given for those who do not initially want surgery or a real life experience. They must be appropriately diagnosed, however, and meet the criteria stated above for hormone administration.

As much as i want things to go quickly i understand why such things are in place. i remember reading Dani Bunten Berrys website about some regret she had from surgery. She talked about how she was kind of cheered into it by some of her friends. Although the choice was always hers its sooooo important to do whats right for you and try to limit the influence of others on you when it comes to truly life-altering decisions. Some girls just need an outlet for their feminine side, some dont want to go through with surgery, etc.. everyone is slightly different.
norinrad
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(02-26-2010, 10:06 AM)
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Interesting thread. I've always been interested in the lives trans genders live. This is a good way to start. Thanks for starting this topic OP
Alfarif
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(02-26-2010, 10:08 AM)
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Originally Posted by Wrath2X

This is interesting to me, so straight men who transition could develop attraction to males? This is interesting. Can you tell me more about this.

This is preciously why I asked this question. Mostly because, if I see the world through a female perspective, only males are attractive to me. BUT, if I see the world through my male perspective, only females are attractive to me. What is that? What does it mean? What the hell is going on?
lexi
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(02-26-2010, 10:13 AM)
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Originally Posted by Wrath2X

This is interesting to me, so straight men who transition could develop attraction to males? This is interesting. Can you tell me more about this.

Also another question: To MtF's who were attracted to males before, did you mistake wanting to be a woman with being gay?

It's sort of hard to explain. I wasn't attracted to guys as a guy, But I did have fantasies about them as a woman.

I know a TGirl who upon transitioning became attracted to men, while previously being a straight male. She actually ended up meeting and marrying a FTM male. :P
water_wendi
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(02-26-2010, 10:15 AM)
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Originally Posted by Wrath2X

Also another question: To MtF's who were attracted to males before, did you mistake wanting to be a woman with being gay?

Not usually but usually a gay guy will accuse me of just being a gay man.. as much as my kneejerk response is "nope!" i owe it to myself to consider the question. ive found myself saying what Alfarif has said. The whole thing can get very confusing sometimes especially when you start being honest with yourself and are working out your feelings and motives of why you are the way you are. ive gone through my major sexuality questioning era (didnt last long lol) and i know for certain im a woman not a gay man.
wRATH2x
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(02-26-2010, 10:19 AM)
Imagining yourself as woman doesn't really mean your transsexual.

I remember reading about straight guys picturing themselves as women and finding it more sexually attractive. Imagining themselves fucking their female selves or the girl them having hot lesbian sex.
wRATH2x
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(02-26-2010, 10:21 AM)

Originally Posted by lexi

It's sort of hard to explain. I wasn't attracted to guys as a guy, But I did have fantasies about them as a woman.

I know a TGirl who upon transitioning became attracted to men, while previously being a straight male. She actually ended up meeting and marrying a FTM male. :P

So did you find it weird finding penis's and muscle bound men appealing at first?

I think I could have worded that better.
Fox the Sly
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(02-26-2010, 10:25 AM)
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Originally Posted by Alfarif

You, sir/ma'am, are a gentlemen/lady and a scholar!

I'll take sir/gentleman, thanks. :D


Originally Posted by lexi

It's sort of hard to explain. I wasn't attracted to guys as a guy, But I did have fantasies about them as a woman.

I know a TGirl who upon transitioning became attracted to men, while previously being a straight male. She actually ended up meeting and marrying a FTM male. :P

It's interesting. I've heard 2-3 gay men say that when they were with masculine men they would take a "passive" role and when they were with effeminate men they would take a more "active" role as if to strike a balance of sorts.
lexi
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(02-26-2010, 10:25 AM)
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Originally Posted by Wrath2X

So did you find it weird finding penis's and muscle bound men appealing at first?

I think I could have worded that better.


Well, no. I had long fantasized about men, but I was not attracted to them sexually as a male.

There is no exact science to this, it's millions and millions of shades of gray.
beje
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(02-26-2010, 10:26 AM)
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Reading this thread popped up this ad:

[img]http://i49.************/2pt18i1.jpg[/img]

And I reminded a FtM boy in a friend's highschool who needed a corset to hide breasts until he could get a mastectomy. He was recently featured in a newspaper article along with another 2 teens who started hormone therapy and how their families supported them and the difficulties of introducing themselves as their desired gender in high school. Really heart touching.
norinrad
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(02-26-2010, 10:30 AM)
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Originally Posted by lexi

Well, no. I had long fantasized about men, but I was not attracted to them sexually as a male.

There is no exact science to this, it's millions and millions of shades of gray.

Lexi,

Do you prefer to be with a man or with a woman? I'm just curious.

In the long time, do you see yourself married to a man and what about adoption? Lets say you want to have a family someday, would you consider adoption?
Alfarif
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(02-26-2010, 10:31 AM)
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Originally Posted by beje

Reading this thread popped up this ad:

[img]http://i49.************/2pt18i1.jpg[/img]

And I reminded a FtM boy in a friend's highschool who needed a corset to hide breasts until he could get a mastectomy. He was recently featured in a newspaper article along with another 2 teens who started hormone therapy and how their families supported them and the difficulties of introducing themselves as their desired gender in high school. Really heart touching.

If I had a TG child, and they expressed this to me, I would be completely in their corner. Anything they needed at any time. I couldn't imagine not loving my child. At the end of the day, it's about my child enjoying life, not about what's between their legs, or how they use it.
lexi
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(02-26-2010, 10:34 AM)
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Originally Posted by Norwegian Wood

Lexi,

Do you prefer to be with a man or with a woman? I'm just curious.

In the long time, do you see yourself married to a man and what about adoption? Lets say you want to have a family someday, would you consider adoption?

I prefer to be with men, but I hate to rule out women altogether. If I click well with somebody then I don't care what their gender is. I've got a bit of a thing for a trans girl atm to be perfectly honest. :P

Yes, I would consider adoption if I wanted to start a family with somebody special. Technology isn't quite that advanced yet.
Last edited by lexi; 01-15-2013 at 11:51 AM. Reason: Geez the language I was using then....
wRATH2x
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(02-26-2010, 10:35 AM)

Originally Posted by lexi

Well, no. I had long fantasized about men, but I was not attracted to them sexually as a male.

Oh OK.

There is no exact science to this, it's millions and millions of shades of gray.

And thats what makes it so interesting!

So would you girls date another transsexual whether they are MtF or FtM?
water_wendi
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(02-26-2010, 10:49 AM)
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Originally Posted by Wrath2X

So would you girls date another transsexual whether they are MtF or FtM?

Sure. Its more the person than the body.
wRATH2x
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(02-26-2010, 10:57 AM)
How about me baby? ;)

Now seriously, I always heard about the risks about going from pre-op to post-op. Could someone explain to me what are the pros and cons for an mtf to go through it. I heard about not reaching sexual gratification, or having to stick something in every 4 hours. Although I'm not sure they are true, but would someone explain everything about it to me.
beje
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(02-26-2010, 10:58 AM)
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Originally Posted by Wrath2X

So would you girls date another transsexual whether they are MtF or FtM?

To put it in another perspective, there are a lot of cis-gendered people (both gay and straight) that wouldn't mind dating a trans-gendered person. The attraction always comes from secondary sexual traits (everything that makes males and females different aside from genitals) after all. For me a guy is a guy, and putting things into perspective, I really wouldn't mind if he had a penis, vagina or post-op penis as long as I liked him.
wRATH2x
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(02-26-2010, 11:03 AM)
In all honesty I'd have sex with an MtF if I were attracted to her, if she is post-op I'd do like I do with a born women. With a pre-op I'd do everything except giving her a blow job and letting her fuck me, not my thing.
water_wendi
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(02-26-2010, 11:14 AM)
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Originally Posted by Wrath2X

How about me baby? ;)

;)

Now seriously, I always heard about the risks about going from pre-op to post-op. Could someone explain to me what are the pros and cons for an mtf to go through it. I heard about not reaching sexual gratification, or having to stick something in every 4 hours. Although I'm not sure they are true, but would someone explain everything about it to me.

i cant speak from personal experience since im not there yet.

Sexual gratification.. there is a good chance that genital orgasm from any previous penile tissue will be gone after surgery. Its different for everybody though, and as science gets better the chances goes up. Personally, i dont use my male bits in that way right now.. and after hormone treatment its difficult anyway. For me, SRS is mostly for peace of mind and being in body as i am in mind and emotion so if i get surgery and things dont come out perfect i think the positives would outweigh the negatives by far.

The other thing you mentioned is dilation. Its a necessary part of surgery and if you are interested there is a nsfw (drawings only but still) link that describes the process here.
Shanadeus
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(02-26-2010, 11:36 AM)
Interesting and needed thread, the more people learn about alternative lifestyles and choices the better and more diverse we all as a whole can get.
wRATH2x
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(02-26-2010, 11:39 AM)

Originally Posted by Number 2

;)


i cant speak from personal experience since im not there yet.

Sexual gratification.. there is a good chance that genital orgasm from any previous penile tissue will be gone after surgery. Its different for everybody though, and as science gets better the chances goes up. Personally, i dont use my male bits in that way right now.. and after hormone treatment its difficult anyway. For me, SRS is mostly for peace of mind and being in body as i am in mind and emotion so if i get surgery and things dont come out perfect i think the positives would outweigh the negatives by far.

The other thing you mentioned is dilation. Its a necessary part of surgery and if you are interested there is a nsfw (drawings only but still) link that describes the process here.

Thanks, I'll check that out later.
NewGamePlus
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(02-26-2010, 11:56 AM)
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Originally Posted by shidoshi

It's like, the trans folks I know gravitate toward avatars featuring Teddy, Poison, or Bridget. *heh*

This is a trend I fully endorse.

Anyways, I've been starring at this thread for a while and I feel I owe it to myself (and to anyone reading who wants to expand their horizons) to be more open about this. I've been in therapy for a few months now, and just had my first visit with a doctor to start hormone treatment last week. I finally came out as transgendered to my family and close friends over the holidays. I felt like I never quite fit in with the other boys, and never really had stereotypical male interests beyond video games and technology. On more than one occasion, I would find myself wanting to do things that my sister was doing, like wearing make-up, but feeling really ashamed and embarrassed about wanting to. Even though I knew it was kind of ridiculous, I would wish that I would sort of grow up into being female. At the very least, I didn't think that puberty would affect my body as much as other boys. Obviously, things didn't really work out that way, and I became rather depressed and withdrawn emotionally. I still am to an extent, although just the act of finally talking about this (all of my family and friends have been supportive thus far) has really lifted my spirits. I definitely feel like I would have been happier had I been born a girl.

However, I've never quite felt like a girl either. This may be because I've just never tried to function full-time as female, but if I had to be perfectly honest with myself right now, I feel more properly identified as genderqueer (or androgynous etc.). It's not something that I feel I can fully explain because it comes from jumbled up feelings that I've been detached from for so long. While I do fantasize about having a female body, I don't feel completely dysphoric about my body now. Starting in high school I had a four and a half year relationship with a girl, and we had a perfectly healthy sex life. I'm also attracted to women, men, mtf, ftm, and anything in-between, and have fantasies sexually as both a man and a woman.

It's getting late and I don't really know where I'm going with this. Hopefully, when I start hormones soon (probably a low dose as I'm still in discovery) I'll gain more insight into what I truly want. What I do know is that what I have right now isn't working anymore. Months ago, it suddenly hit me that if I never addressed this and just kept on the path that I was on, then I would never be happy. In all honesty, I wouldn't have lasted much longer either. Looking forward now, the future looks much brighter, and I highly encourage anyone who is questioning themselves to start figuring things out now. You don't need to be miserable the rest of your life.
Xater
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(02-26-2010, 12:08 PM)
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Not transgender myself but this is a great thread. I don#t think I have any deep question right know. Well I would like to know if you guys think the "tranny suprise" gag, that's been going around on GAF for who knows how long, is offensive.
wRATH2x
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(02-26-2010, 12:15 PM)
How old are you broodax?
NewGamePlus
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(02-26-2010, 12:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by Wrath2X

How old are you broodax?

21
akachan ningen
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(02-26-2010, 12:20 PM)
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my uncle(aunt now) is a tranny. I don't talk to him though cause he lives in NY and we have nothing to talk about. :p
Witchfinder General
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(02-26-2010, 12:24 PM)
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Adding support. I feel many (including myself) no little about transgender folks and this thread seems like a great way to clear up some misconceptions.

I do have a question for transgaf: Is Trans America a good look into transgendered people or simply another case of Hollywood taking the circus-freak approach to entertainment?
wRATH2x
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(02-26-2010, 12:30 PM)

Originally Posted by Broodax

21

Its great that your starting early, I heard about many who were late and regretted it.
Android18a
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(02-26-2010, 12:35 PM)
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Originally Posted by Wrath2X

Its great that your starting early, I heard about many who were late and regretted it.

Yeah. I turn 27 soon, and it's annoying to think of the wasted years. Don't do what I did.

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